In this video I explain why I went with the 2017 Nissan LEAF over the BOLT EV, TESLA and others, and my thoughts on the car after one month of ownership.

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    • D Man
      D Man

      It's nice to hear from someone who actually seems to be budget minded when it comes to EVs, especially compared to the average EV owner or potential buyer that I talk to. For many of them, money doesn't appear to be an issue and they never understand why people cannot drop $35K or more on an EV.

      about 1 year ago
    • larryware1
      larryware1 In reply to D Man

      John, we are so delighted with our LEAF. So glad you are having great results with your BMW and Leaf. I think you got yours just in time. Gas prices are so unstable. I've heard rave reviews on the i3. My Leaf came with a new set of tires, new 12 V battery, and new windshield wipers. The owner had taken the car in to Nissan to evaluate the traction battery. Basically, everything was done on the car. All I'm doing this year is changing the in-cabin air filter. We will never be without an EV now. These are really nice cars.

      about 1 year ago
    • John Livesey
      John Livesey In reply to D Man

      larryware1 we purchased a 3 year lease return Leaf and a 3 year lease return BMW i3rx. I checked the state of the batteries in both vehicles before purchase and both had a ton of warranty left. Both were low mileage and were half the price of a new one. If you go for value rather than worrying about price there is no down side to EVs. Remember there is no maintenance required other than the recomendation to check the brake fluid moisture content annually. Our 2012 Leaf required a replacement 12 volt battery at 6 years and we replaced two tires a bit early since the dealer gave us a good price. Our 2015 BMW i3 hasn't cost us anything for maintenance so far. We have incentives to buy new EVs were we live which we haven't used yet since the used ones are such value. The price of gas/petrol in our area has recently risen to be the highest in North America which further justifies our decision to go 100% electric. When we first got our Leaf we were constantly approached by people wanting to know all about it, from range to charging, and cost and time to recharge. That died down for the last few years but with the rise in gas prices we are once again being approached by interested people. I tell them there is no downside.

      about 1 year ago
    • larryware1
      larryware1 In reply to D Man

      I only spent $6,000 for my used Leaf. I installed a 240 V L2 charging cord for $250. That's cheap. Using our utilitie's power saving program we are actually charging it at NO extra cost. It's cheap, reliable transportation.

      about 1 year ago
    • Sidney Mantissa
      Sidney Mantissa In reply to D Man

      Lawrence Rhodes what do you mean by 9500 buy back? Is this what they gave you on a trade in? If so, you could have gotten more on your trade if you had sold it yourself.

      It's a shell game man. They do this all day every day. You only think you got a good deal.

      Fact is, the Leaf has a very primitive thermal management system for its battery. Very cheap design. You won't realize the mistake you made until you have to replace the battery. Should have got a Bolt or a BMW i3.

      about 1 year ago
    • Richard Wallinger
      Richard Wallinger

      nice to have a real person with real views .. well done .2011 Acenta LEAF driver 74 years old   EX 1980 Donnington GT championship outright winner.

      about 1 month ago
    • AJ
      AJ

      Just one question. Why does the leaf has a gas pump as the “battery fuel” meter? Lol.

      about 4 months ago
    • Bigbubbybadass 1
      Bigbubbybadass 1

      Makes since

      about 6 months ago
    • Luxottica
      Luxottica

      I go for EV for $$$ savings! With tesla there is none but with budget evs there is huge $ savings! You get nice 2016 leaf 30kw for 12k$ and enjoy! Teslas are at least 35k for 2013

      about 8 months ago
    • Dom Hawtin
      Dom Hawtin

      In New Zealand you are not allowed a screen/tablet/phone stuck in the middle of the front window. You have to put it to the right hand side of the window (left hand side for left hand side drive cars) as it blocks out so much of your view. Frankly to me it seems dangerous to do so but that’s because I am use to our laws.

      about 11 months ago
    • telocity
      telocity

      I drive a 2012 Mitsubishi i-miev which was purchased in 2016 for $9k. It was a former Government vehicle with 10k miles on it. It's basically the same vehicle they sell now new for $27K. Because electric cars don't need much maintenance, I don't think I would ever buy one new, to much depreciation. My 2012 is now selling used for $6k, so a loss of $3k so far.

      about 1 year ago
    • larryware1
      larryware1

      Great video, bmhsonic. Money savings was precisely the reason for my purchase of a Nissan Leaf last Sept. They are extremely cheap to drive around. Utility prices stay steady as gas prices fluctuate. EVs are cheap to maintain, fun to drive, and quiet. My wife and I will never be without an EV now. We use it for 95% of our local driving.

      about 1 year ago
    • bmhsonic
      bmhsonic In reply to larryware1

      larryware1 100% over here... My Wife was so impressed with how it held up over this past winter (and we live up in Maine too) that we traded in her Nissan Rouge this spring and bought a Chevy BOLT to add to our family. We actually just got back from our trip to Virginia with the BOLT and posted about it here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-251mCPe8QQ

      about 1 year ago
    • L.GH. Djoetma
      L.GH. Djoetma

      It's kind of an old video now, bit still very relevant. Nice story about your purchasing decision and you people should really understand how rationality is key when buying cars in this class and that some manufacturers really have a good deal to offer when you are willing to give them a chance.

      about 1 year ago
    • bmhsonic
      bmhsonic In reply to L.GH. Djoetma

      L.GH. Djoetma Very true... Looking forward to doing a one-year review in the next couple of months so stay tuned for that! If you haven't done so already please hit the Subscribe button and you'll be notified when I upload new videos. Thanks for watching!

      about 1 year ago
    • Timothy Hoang
      Timothy Hoang

      Dude, you are such a tech nerd! Thanks for the video. 😆

      about 1 year ago
    • bmhsonic
      bmhsonic In reply to Timothy Hoang

      Timothy Hoang haha, you have no idea! 🤣

      about 1 year ago
    • Vman
      Vman

      bmhsonic, I got alot out of your video, thanks. Question, as I write this, it's 4/15/18. What the best way to get a leaf at the cheapest price? Ask for a lease? Now that the new 2018 leaf is out, is the 2017 style cheaper?

      about 1 year ago
    • Mark Levenson
      Mark Levenson In reply to Vman

      Excellent advice, thank you!!

      about 1 year ago
    • bmhsonic
      bmhsonic In reply to Vman

      Assuming you can find a new (untitled) 2017 LEAF still on the lot at a dealership I would think you could get the best deal on that as we did something similar recently when we took ownership of my Wife's BOLT EV... Keep in mind IF you can find any leftovers from 2017 you'll most likely have to buy it VS leasing it, but don't let that stop you if you can find an AMAZING deal on one! For 2018 I would prefer leasing as you'll realize the savings in your lease payment... If you add up 36 months of lease payments and it equals "X" and your buyout price equals "Y" then X+Y=Z and if "Z" is less than MSRP by at least $7,500 then you're on the right path... My X+Y=Z was less than MSRP by $14,950 so I jumped on it! Good luck to you, I wish you the best!

      about 1 year ago
    • Will Lehrfeld
      Will Lehrfeld

      Great video, I am leaning more and more towards the leaf

      about 1 year ago
    • Devonne West
      Devonne West

      Enjoyed ur vid and review! Please make more and keep us updated on your ownership of the Leaf. Enjoyed. Liked n subd.

      about 1 year ago
    • RacingGuy61
      RacingGuy61

      They are great in the beginning. Update this after your battery degrades and your range tanks. Until Nissan re-engineers their stupidly designed air-cooled battery, we will never own a Leaf. We have a Volt that we almost never drive on gas and we are looking at a Bolt so we have 170+ highway, 230+ city driving capability. The Leaf is just too much range anxiety, right now. Hoping Nissan wakes up!

      about 1 year ago
    • bmhsonic
      bmhsonic In reply to RacingGuy61

      RacingGuy61
      Point 1) SOH is still at 100% even after 98QC's and 182 L1~L2's

      Point 2) Nissan IS releasing a liquid cooled 60kWh LEAF but that doesn't mean air-cooled batteries are crap.

      Point 3) Range Anxiety? Ha! Check this out! --> https://youtu.be/8woY_3ISC3A

      about 1 year ago
    • Gérard Lefrançois
      Gérard Lefrançois

      Driving a car without gas and oil is a dream for sure. This sociaty is only for money making because of the system we invented. Elec. car are a lot too expensive for what it is. We dont live in a car, it is only for utility.

      about 1 year ago
    • Randy Huggins
      Randy Huggins

      you can buy 4 used leafs for the price on one volt economics

      about 1 year ago
    • z8machine
      z8machine

      A Leaf will always work, even if expensive, since a new battery is only $5000 every few years and cheaper third party batteries are appearing. Tesla batteries cost $55,000 to replace every 5-7 years, which is obviously cost prohibitive, so all Teslas are totaled after around 6 years unless they have some numismatic value like their early Lotus chassis cars.

      about 1 year ago
    • Benjamin Fraley
      Benjamin Fraley

      Hey man, I was wondering if you could elaborate a bit more on how you got this leaf for so cheap? Did you just ask the dealer to take the tax incentive off the price? Or what?

      about 1 year ago
    • bmhsonic
      bmhsonic In reply to Benjamin Fraley

      Pretty much... I knew going into this that the 2018's were right around the corner. Regardless of that Nissan was offering insane deals on the 2017's at the time so I took advantage it wholeheartedly.

      about 1 year ago
    • brian woo
      brian woo

      I bought Bolt EV LT 2017 two weeks ago at the price of $32,287.55($35,555 drive out) and I'm loving it.
      For my 40 miles per day commute, I only need to charge it weekly.

      about 1 year ago
    • bmhsonic
      bmhsonic In reply to brian woo

      brian woo Same here! I love being able to leave it plugged in and have it warm up in the garage before I head out to work.

      about 1 year ago
    • brian woo
      brian woo In reply to brian woo

      bmhsonic
      Oh I forgot to mention that I use preconditioning (while connected) for about 15 min before I drive out. It may help on the range.

      about 1 year ago
    • bmhsonic
      bmhsonic In reply to brian woo

      brian woo I was charging weekly too as I only average about 20 miles a day, but since the extreme cold has set in (teens and single digits) it's been more like every other day because I do use the heat and not just the seat warmers... On days it's in the 30's and the sun is out I can get by with just using the seat warmers which puts me back up to the same range as I was in the summer, but the colder weather definitely cuts into where your energy is spent.
      Good for you for getting a deal on the BOLT EV. In 2 and 1/2 years I might try again OR see what Nissan's offering at that point...then again if this car is still working for me and I see an expansion in the charging networks I might just keep my LEAF and buy it at the end of the lease for $8K. Either way I'm happy to have left the gas pumps behind and be driving around in my first fully electric car! 😀

      about 1 year ago
    • Mr. M
      Mr. M

      Great Video, thank you for sharing the numbers $$ with us 👍🏼

      about 1 year ago
    • Carbon Lux
      Carbon Lux

      Good job!!

      about 1 year ago
    • Jim Stack
      Jim Stack

      Let us know how the battery holds up on your area. Also what temperatures do you have in your area.
      In HOT Phoenix the batteries lose 5 to 15% capacity a year. After 3 or 4 years it's very poor.

      about 1 year ago
    • yougeo
      yougeo

      Really spunds great.
      I remember when it first came out the local dealer said anyone who hsd a long daily commute could basically get the car for free with the monthly gas payments they would no longer be making.
      And it has a nice long interior that is very flexible.

      about 1 year ago
    • dannycandor
      dannycandor

      Thanks for making this video!! Good stuff..... 😁

      about 1 year ago
    • Michael Annen
      Michael Annen

      Good deal. I drive a Mitsubishi imiev and love it. Not buying gas is a big deal.

      about 1 year ago
    • Spyker Workshop
      Spyker Workshop In reply to Michael Annen

      Michael Annen I got imiev used for 7k, its battery went out compeltly 2 months later! But the dealership replaced it 100% free, so the cars like BRAND NEW now, pizza delivery place owned it before me

      about 1 year ago
    • BnT Smith
      BnT Smith

      good job

      about 1 year ago
    • Ian EV
      Ian EV

      I've owned my Leaf for 3 months now and agree it's the best car I've ever owned!

      about 1 year ago
    • Anonymous Individual
      Anonymous Individual

      Sorry if you already made a video about this ,but can you make a video on the interior of the Nissan Leaf?i am a curious teenager unable to buy a ev!!!

      about 1 year ago
    • kens97sto171
      kens97sto171

      Very rational decision on your car. And congratulations on a good logical choice. The range works for you and your got a well made car that will serve you well.
      Too bad the Chevy dealer was doing this.. they could have sold a car and you would be posting videos a out how much you love that car.

      EV's are kinda useless to many of us. Even the Bolt or Tesla would never work for me, unless I wanted to keep a second car anyways.

      I never know how far I will be driving when I leave my house. Could be not much.. could be 500 miles.
      So my next car will be a hybrid. Gives me the best of both.. with unlimited range and EV use in the city.

      about 1 year ago
    • www.UBUYGAS.com
      www.UBUYGAS.com

      Hey Great Video! - Some people will say you went over to the Dark Side! - I don't listen to those people. For some reason, they think that Not burning Gasoline is Un-American. All I say is that they are clueless, they have not test driven an EV yet! - Congrats on your 2017 LEAF! It Looks Great and I Love your License Plate! - I have my LEAF for 4.7 Years so far and It's the Best Car I've ever owned!

      about 1 year ago
    • bmhsonic
      bmhsonic In reply to www.UBUYGAS.com

      www.UBUYGAS.com I'm currently trying to convince my Wife to get one. Her lease is up on our Rouge in June, so we've got just over 6 more months to figure out what we're going to do for her. I think she's waiting to see how I do this winter before she makes that decision. Fingers crossed. 🤞

      about 1 year ago