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Comments

    • Dan Katz
      Dan Katz

      I can't believe Autogefuhl has so few subscribers! I love Thomas so much, he has the perfect balance of his own opinions and an objectivity. Wonderful content, keep it up guys!

      about 1 day ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Dan Katz

      Thanks and please help by sharing and recommending :)

      about 1 day ago
    • Meng Jiang
      Meng Jiang

      was deciding between the GLE/X5/Velar, I guess velar it is with the plant seating commitment

      about 14 days ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Meng Jiang

      Compare our reviews of the...
      GLE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGvZMgFD3iQ
      X5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_R422k0UyE

      about 14 days ago
    • Rebeccaandjames Mason
      Rebeccaandjames Mason

      It's not out of the goodness of their heart, leather comes as standard (free) the non-leather versions are upgrades!! It should be the other way around!! 😡

      about 1 month ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Rebeccaandjames Mason

      Yeah.

      about 1 month ago
    • Gary J.
      Gary J.

      18:14: That button goes back even further - to the 1980's when it was the rear electric seat button for the Ford Scorpio.

      about 1 month ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Gary J.

      hehe =)

      about 1 month ago
    • Yaakov Vatch
      Yaakov Vatch

      6:50 a German complaining about slaughter, ironic.

      about 1 month ago
    • Yaakov Vatch
      Yaakov Vatch In reply to Yaakov Vatch

      It’s not a matter of association, it’s a matter of reality.

      about 1 month ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Yaakov Vatch

      And why is that? How do you know I even associate myself with being "German" ?

      about 1 month ago
    • Yaakov Vatch
      Yaakov Vatch In reply to Yaakov Vatch

      You could, but it’s still ironic

      about 1 month ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Yaakov Vatch

      So because I am born in Germany, I cannot care about animal welfare?

      about 1 month ago
    • Martin Baker
      Martin Baker

      You’re the David Attenborough of car reviewers. “Cool back and warm bottom” 😂

      about 1 month ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Martin Baker

      =)

      about 1 month ago
    • Mike P
      Mike P

      Thanks for the clarification

      about 1 month ago
    • Mike P
      Mike P

      OK to have leather shoes or gloves or hats, or even a watch strap why not use the left over leather for car seats or home furniture?

      about 1 month ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Mike P

      We have researched this issue for many years now so please take your time to go through our extensive resources stated below as they answer every single question we have yet received concerning this matter.

      At Autogefühl, we have already received several thousands (!) comments, messages and mails that more and more people want to combine enjoying their car with reducing the environmental impact at the same time. We believe that sustainable luxury is possible or at least we should do everything to support that. Those many thousand people confirming this trend, motivate us to give you the most authentic information and background on the product parts. It is not about what you bought in the past, and it is not about blaming anyone, it is about what you decide in the future and what you can decide and influence as a customer. So we want you to have all information that you need for a decision you later enjoy and like best yourself.

      In Summer 2017, Tesla motors has decided to be the first manufacturer to go all the way with sustainable seat materials, only offering fabric/cloth seats or leatherette seats in different colours. They have banned all real leather from the seating surface and at the steering wheel in the white trim or on demand. So Tesla shows where the industry will and must be heading, just like they went forward with electrification first.

      Check out our special video addressing car CEOs as a first summary and also see conditions of animal skin production:
      https://youtu.be/LNSUzZXzpdc

      List of practical reasons against animal skin seats:


      1. animal skin seats are often sold as an expensive option, by going for base trim level seats you can save a lot of money and get a better price-performance-deal (often the manufacturers claim that animal leather is top of luxury because they can earn the best money with it)
      2. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat, probably you need seat cooling
      3. they get very cold in winter and you need seat heating
      4. on cloth or microfibre surfaces, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling
      5. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like an old sofa
      6. if you want leather look or need seats that can be wiped clean easier, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review https://youtu.be/y2wNGFKa4M0) So Tesla shows a good example for that and as described, non-leather materials are now standard for ALL Tesla
      7. More manufacturer names for their good alternatives: Mercedes MBTex/Artico for leatherette, Dinamica for microfibre. BMW Sensatec, Toyota Sof-Tex, Lexus Nu-Luxe (all faux leather)




      To the environmental reasons:


      1. The way the cows and other intelligent and social animals are raised and held are not according to the basic values that we all share (also see videos below)
      2. The factory farming industry can be accounted for at least 40 % of climate emissions and thus is (according to numerous sources you can look up) the number one reason for climate change and environmental destruction. It is the number one reason for deforestation, two thirds of all agricultural land on earth is used for growing animal food crops. If you would feed humans directly by using the agricultural land, you could produce much more food for everyone. See this interesting essay for more on climate emissions background: http://www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf
      3. It is not only cows who are suffering, but also the environment and to a big part also humans. Think of slavery-like working conditions in slaughterhouses (there are plenty of documentaries about this) or think of chemically altered drinking water in animal skin production villages as also seen in the video footage.
      4. The discussion, for which body part the cow is killed first, is very patronizing. But if you really think it would be important why someone gets killed in first place: There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even while still being (part-)alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body.
      5. So even if a cow gets theoretically killed for meat first, in every case you give additional money to an industry that relies on killing, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". A the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover up that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy.
      6. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: http://adaptt.org/




      To “But leatherette is not sustainable due to petrochemical production”
      1. Indeed some fabrics and micro fibres are oil based, however most oil is spent on energy production, heating and fuel. The share of oil used for artificial cloth etc. is very very small.
      2. If you look at the whole production process, the leatherette is way more sustainable than the leather produce. Even if you leave the ethical aspect aside, here is the official calculation of the CO2-Output animal skin vs leatherette (different kinds of leatherette):
      Leather 17 kg CO2/m²
      PVC leatherette 10 kg CO2/m²
      Acella Eco natural leatherette 8,5 kg CO2/m²
      Benova (PUR leatherette): 8 kg CO2/m²
      So by using the latest high-tech leatherette, you even the CO2-emissions are cut in half!
      3. The best to-come solution are indeed plant-based materials like Pinatex (based on pineapple leaves) or new materials based on mycelia (roots of mushrooms) or other innovative natural products. That’s the future.


      More special video episodes:


      1. A initial special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f91KgbVbJQ
      2. And another one right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMNgcLE0LDU
      3. Furthermore, you’ll find the footage of leather production also here, where people are walking in chemicals etc. and animals have to watch their friends being slaughtered in front of their eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipYvuDsI6s
      timecode starting 27:46
      4. This is another video which very well summarizes the torture of leather production, shots taken at big farms which directly produce for the automotive industry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgHs239bAnE
      5. Please note that those videos are made by well-known journalists and cameramen who were not influenced by any animal welfare organisation, they supply their footage to the animal rights groups of course. I partly know the creators of the video footage personally and they are all authentic. You don’t have to search long to find cruel production environments anyway.


      Manufacturers reactions:

      We started the very first inquiry years ago, with the result that car manufacturers do not reveal their sources of animal skin AT ALL. If it all would be clean and happening without harm, why don’t they show it to us whereas they are showing us every other detail of their products? They have good reason not to, because there is no such thing as a clean animal skin production without harming cows, humans and the environment. The only thing a manufacturer can do is increase their effort for a better future, and we are helping with in-depth talks and interviews by presenting the increasing customer demand for sustainable luxury. Tesla was the first one to react in a major way now.

      So meanwhile, we more often also get feedback that a lot of manufacturers are working on leather-free interiors and are aware of the situation. E.g. Bentley, Mini and Kia have started vegan car interior programmes. Besides Tesla, Mercedes already shows major choices for sustainable interiors, you always have to pay attention to the details when ordering, of course - and we are happy to give advice. However, much has to be done still and the Autogefuehl community is massively helping in boosting the positive change!


      Help to raise awareness on this subject. Thanks!

      about 1 month ago
    • angi
      angi

      Excited to watch your driving review of the new Evoque 😊😊 Awesome review, Thomas .... or 186cm tall Thomas as I think of you 😂

      about 2 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to angi

      😅😅

      about 2 months ago
    • Carie Saad
      Carie Saad

      You forgot to mention a few interior details like the armrests slide up when cupholders arent in use, the front cupholder also is where the wireless charging area, u can switch the navigation screen to the guage cluster as either split or full screen, etc.

      about 2 months ago
    • Ryan
      Ryan

      What was that gesture at 1:50? Hahaha!

      about 2 months ago
    • Zakia Okellouch
      Zakia Okellouch

      Well Then we should also stop eating cows ? Wh not use the skinn instead of just throw it away ? many of us love it and i love it in my car it would be a waste just to throw is away, so choose eat cow or let it live !

      about 3 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Zakia Okellouch

      We have researched this issue for many years now so please take your time to go through our extensive resources stated below as they answer every single question we have yet received concerning this matter.

      At Autogefühl, we have already received several thousands (!) comments, messages and mails that more and more people want to combine enjoying their car with reducing the environmental impact at the same time. We believe that sustainable luxury is possible or at least we should do everything to support that. Those many thousand people confirming this trend, motivate us to give you the most authentic information and background on the product parts. It is not about what you bought in the past, and it is not about blaming anyone, it is about what you decide in the future and what you can decide and influence as a customer. So we want you to have all information that you need for a decision you later enjoy and like best yourself.

      In Summer 2017, Tesla motors has decided to be the first manufacturer to go all the way with sustainable seat materials, only offering fabric/cloth seats or leatherette seats in different colours. They have banned all real leather from the seating surface and at the steering wheel in the white trim or on demand. So Tesla shows where the industry will and must be heading, just like they went forward with electrification first.

      Check out our special video addressing car CEOs as a first summary and also see conditions of animal skin production:
      https://youtu.be/LNSUzZXzpdc

      List of practical reasons against animal skin seats:


      1. animal skin seats are often sold as an expensive option, by going for base trim level seats you can save a lot of money and get a better price-performance-deal (often the manufacturers claim that animal leather is top of luxury because they can earn the best money with it)
      2. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat, probably you need seat cooling
      3. they get very cold in winter and you need seat heating
      4. on cloth or microfibre surfaces, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling
      5. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like an old sofa
      6. if you want leather look or need seats that can be wiped clean easier, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review https://youtu.be/y2wNGFKa4M0) So Tesla shows a good example for that and as described, non-leather materials are now standard for ALL Tesla
      7. More manufacturer names for their good alternatives: Mercedes MBTex/Artico for leatherette, Dinamica for microfibre. BMW Sensatec, Toyota Sof-Tex, Lexus Nu-Luxe (all faux leather)




      To the environmental reasons:


      1. The way the cows and other intelligent and social animals are raised and held are not according to the basic values that we all share (also see videos below)
      2. The factory farming industry can be accounted for at least 40 % of climate emissions and thus is (according to numerous sources you can look up) the number one reason for climate change and environmental destruction. It is the number one reason for deforestation, two thirds of all agricultural land on earth is used for growing animal food crops. If you would feed humans directly by using the agricultural land, you could produce much more food for everyone. See this interesting essay for more on climate emissions background: http://www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf
      3. It is not only cows who are suffering, but also the environment and to a big part also humans. Think of slavery-like working conditions in slaughterhouses (there are plenty of documentaries about this) or think of chemically altered drinking water in animal skin production villages as also seen in the video footage.
      4. The discussion, for which body part the cow is killed first, is very patronizing. But if you really think it would be important why someone gets killed in first place: There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even while still being (part-)alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body.
      5. So even if a cow gets theoretically killed for meat first, in every case you give additional money to an industry that relies on killing, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". A the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover up that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy.
      6. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: http://adaptt.org/




      To “But leatherette is not sustainable due to petrochemical production”
      1. Indeed some fabrics and micro fibres are oil based, however most oil is spent on energy production, heating and fuel. The share of oil used for artificial cloth etc. is very very small.
      2. If you look at the whole production process, the leatherette is way more sustainable than the leather produce. Even if you leave the ethical aspect aside, here is the official calculation of the CO2-Output animal skin vs leatherette (different kinds of leatherette):
      Leather 17 kg CO2/m²
      PVC leatherette 10 kg CO2/m²
      Acella Eco natural leatherette 8,5 kg CO2/m²
      Benova (PUR leatherette): 8 kg CO2/m²
      So by using the latest high-tech leatherette, you even the CO2-emissions are cut in half!
      3. The best to-come solution are indeed plant-based materials like Pinatex (based on pineapple leaves) or new materials based on mycelia (roots of mushrooms) or other innovative natural products. That’s the future.


      More special video episodes:


      1. A initial special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f91KgbVbJQ
      2. And another one right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMNgcLE0LDU
      3. Furthermore, you’ll find the footage of leather production also here, where people are walking in chemicals etc. and animals have to watch their friends being slaughtered in front of their eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipYvuDsI6s
      timecode starting 27:46
      4. This is another video which very well summarizes the torture of leather production, shots taken at big farms which directly produce for the automotive industry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgHs239bAnE
      5. Please note that those videos are made by well-known journalists and cameramen who were not influenced by any animal welfare organisation, they supply their footage to the animal rights groups of course. I partly know the creators of the video footage personally and they are all authentic. You don’t have to search long to find cruel production environments anyway.


      Manufacturers reactions:

      We started the very first inquiry years ago, with the result that car manufacturers do not reveal their sources of animal skin AT ALL. If it all would be clean and happening without harm, why don’t they show it to us whereas they are showing us every other detail of their products? They have good reason not to, because there is no such thing as a clean animal skin production without harming cows, humans and the environment. The only thing a manufacturer can do is increase their effort for a better future, and we are helping with in-depth talks and interviews by presenting the increasing customer demand for sustainable luxury. Tesla was the first one to react in a major way now.

      So meanwhile, we more often also get feedback that a lot of manufacturers are working on leather-free interiors and are aware of the situation. E.g. Bentley, Mini and Kia have started vegan car interior programmes. Besides Tesla, Mercedes already shows major choices for sustainable interiors, you always have to pay attention to the details when ordering, of course - and we are happy to give advice. However, much has to be done still and the Autogefuehl community is massively helping in boosting the positive change!


      Help to raise awareness on this subject. Thanks!

      about 3 months ago
    • SJ R0ckZ M.
      SJ R0ckZ M.

      someone please kick out this cow lover from here............. we all are here to know about Velar not cow

      about 3 months ago
    • Peep
      Peep

      what would happen if the Japanese built LR....may be quality

      about 3 months ago
    • YungGBone124127134
      YungGBone124127134 In reply to Peep

      Too bad Lexus ugly ass Suv's a fuckin disaster!

      about 1 month ago
    • R P
      R P

      Tried FPace and Velar in order to replace my 250 XF sportbrake. Unexpectedly I prefer the Velar. It is the one that follows better Jaguar’s driving tradition. Agree with your statement then. In my opinion FPace seems to have been tunned with Macan in mind not achieving any outstanding result. Congrats for your reports.

      about 3 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to R P

      👌

      about 3 months ago
    • jyc33
      jyc33

      I am from France, and I love "Autogefühl" videos. Unfortunately, I do not speak or understand German, but this young man speaks english perfectly, and I understand about 90% of what he says. He is elegant, serious, charming, and passionate. It is a real pleasure to listen to him describing with impartiality german, english, italian or french cars. Congratulations !

      about 3 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to jyc33

      Merci beaucoup!!

      about 3 months ago
    • Philip G
      Philip G

      Welcome to cutting your arm off using the tailgate, wiss Thomas.

      about 4 months ago
    • AKTINODIAGNOSI BACKUP
      AKTINODIAGNOSI BACKUP

      In order to get the full range rover experience you need to buy a 5 year old one... After that everything breaks and you become a mechanic yourself in order not to go bankrupt

      about 4 months ago
    • Sankha C
      Sankha C

      U make your living by burning fossil fuel and supporting the industry (and of course we watch) which is one of the primary causes of desertification which causes more and more deaths every year across the less privileged parts of the world, number soon to reach millions a year, and take a stand on killing animals! With all due respect, this seems like double standard. I must mention I am strictly against killing animals for anything beyond basic survival need.

      about 4 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Sankha C

      So ur logic is: when u work in the car industry (like millions of people) u have tp disrespect animals?

      about 4 months ago
    • Sankha C
      Sankha C

      A range rover tested only on motorway? What's the point?

      about 4 months ago
    • Henri
      Henri

      Range Rover is timeless Classic !!

      about 4 months ago
    • Елена Санкари
      Елена Санкари

      English with german accent

      about 4 months ago
    • vince ma
      vince ma

      not British car anymore...

      about 6 months ago
    • Delan Tendai
      Delan Tendai

      Why should you not use animals it looks great gtfoh

      about 6 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Delan Tendai

      We have researched this issue for many years now so please take your time to go through our extensive resources stated below as they answer every single question we have yet received concerning this matter.

      At Autogefühl, we have already received several thousands (!) comments, messages and mails that more and more people want to combine enjoying their car with reducing the environmental impact at the same time. We believe that sustainable luxury is possible or at least we should do everything to support that. Those many thousand people confirming this trend, motivate us to give you the most authentic information and background on the product parts. It is not about what you bought in the past, and it is not about blaming anyone, it is about what you decide in the future and what you can decide and influence as a customer. So we want you to have all information that you need for a decision you later enjoy and like best yourself.

      In Summer 2017, Tesla motors has decided to be the first manufacturer to go all the way with sustainable seat materials, only offering fabric/cloth seats or leatherette seats in different colours. They have banned all real leather from the seating surface and at the steering wheel in the white trim or on demand. So Tesla shows where the industry will and must be heading, just like they went forward with electrification first.

      Check out our special video addressing car CEOs as a first summary and also see conditions of animal skin production:
      https://youtu.be/LNSUzZXzpdc

      List of practical reasons against animal skin seats:


      1. animal skin seats are often sold as an expensive option, by going for base trim level seats you can save a lot of money and get a better price-performance-deal (often the manufacturers claim that animal leather is top of luxury because they can earn the best money with it)
      2. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat, probably you need seat cooling
      3. they get very cold in winter and you need seat heating
      4. on cloth or microfibre surfaces, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling
      5. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like an old sofa
      6. if you want leather look or need seats that can be wiped clean easier, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review https://youtu.be/y2wNGFKa4M0) So Tesla shows a good example for that and as described, non-leather materials are now standard for ALL Tesla
      7. More manufacturer names for their good alternatives: Mercedes MBTex/Artico for leatherette, Dinamica for microfibre. BMW Sensatec, Toyota Sof-Tex, Lexus Nu-Luxe (all faux leather)




      To the environmental reasons:


      1. The way the cows and other intelligent and social animals are raised and held are not according to the basic values that we all share (also see videos below)
      2. The factory farming industry can be accounted for at least 40 % of climate emissions and thus is (according to numerous sources you can look up) the number one reason for climate change and environmental destruction. It is the number one reason for deforestation, two thirds of all agricultural land on earth is used for growing animal food crops. If you would feed humans directly by using the agricultural land, you could produce much more food for everyone. See this interesting essay for more on climate emissions background: http://www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf
      3. It is not only cows who are suffering, but also the environment and to a big part also humans. Think of slavery-like working conditions in slaughterhouses (there are plenty of documentaries about this) or think of chemically altered drinking water in animal skin production villages as also seen in the video footage.
      4. The discussion, for which body part the cow is killed first, is very patronizing. But if you really think it would be important why someone gets killed in first place: There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even while still being (part-)alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body.
      5. So even if a cow gets theoretically killed for meat first, in every case you give additional money to an industry that relies on killing, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". A the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover up that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy.
      6. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: http://adaptt.org/




      To “But leatherette is not sustainable due to petrochemical production”
      1. Indeed some fabrics and micro fibres are oil based, however most oil is spent on energy production, heating and fuel. The share of oil used for artificial cloth etc. is very very small.
      2. If you look at the whole production process, the leatherette is way more sustainable than the leather produce. Even if you leave the ethical aspect aside, here is the official calculation of the CO2-Output animal skin vs leatherette (different kinds of leatherette):
      Leather 17 kg CO2/m²
      PVC leatherette 10 kg CO2/m²
      Acella Eco natural leatherette 8,5 kg CO2/m²
      Benova (PUR leatherette): 8 kg CO2/m²
      So by using the latest high-tech leatherette, you even the CO2-emissions are cut in half!
      3. The best to-come solution are indeed plant-based materials like Pinatex (based on pineapple leaves) or new materials based on mycelia (roots of mushrooms) or other innovative natural products. That’s the future.


      More special video episodes:


      1. A initial special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f91KgbVbJQ
      2. And another one right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMNgcLE0LDU
      3. Furthermore, you’ll find the footage of leather production also here, where people are walking in chemicals etc. and animals have to watch their friends being slaughtered in front of their eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipYvuDsI6s
      timecode starting 27:46
      4. This is another video which very well summarizes the torture of leather production, shots taken at big farms which directly produce for the automotive industry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgHs239bAnE
      5. Please note that those videos are made by well-known journalists and cameramen who were not influenced by any animal welfare organisation, they supply their footage to the animal rights groups of course. I partly know the creators of the video footage personally and they are all authentic. You don’t have to search long to find cruel production environments anyway.


      Manufacturers reactions:

      We started the very first inquiry years ago, with the result that car manufacturers do not reveal their sources of animal skin AT ALL. If it all would be clean and happening without harm, why don’t they show it to us whereas they are showing us every other detail of their products? They have good reason not to, because there is no such thing as a clean animal skin production without harming cows, humans and the environment. The only thing a manufacturer can do is increase their effort for a better future, and we are helping with in-depth talks and interviews by presenting the increasing customer demand for sustainable luxury. Tesla was the first one to react in a major way now.

      So meanwhile, we more often also get feedback that a lot of manufacturers are working on leather-free interiors and are aware of the situation. E.g. Bentley, Mini and Kia have started vegan car interior programmes. Besides Tesla, Mercedes already shows major choices for sustainable interiors, you always have to pay attention to the details when ordering, of course - and we are happy to give advice. However, much has to be done still and the Autogefuehl community is massively helping in boosting the positive change!


      Help to raise awareness on this subject. Thanks!

      about 6 months ago
    • Flour Power
      Flour Power

      I've just ordered a Range Rover Velar R dynamic SE with 22 inch first edition alloy wheels - thanks for a well balanced review apart from getting too hung up on the standard lush leather interior - there's no way I'm paying £3000 for some chic textiles which isn't practical. The Velar is without doubt the most ascetically pleasing and beautiful SUV on the market , especially when compared to BMW and AUDI's, offering bland styling and a lack character.

      about 6 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Flour Power

      enjoy! At least in Germany there is also a base fabric option. That should also do just fine.

      about 6 months ago
    • david whitehouse
      david whitehouse

      no body should complain about wool, as the animal stays alive when you remove the wool .. but ppl are too animal friendly these days, personally i think ppl care more about animals than they do about ppl

      about 6 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to david whitehouse

      Google wool production animal abuse and u ll find your answer...

      about 6 months ago
    • Ítalo Calazans Valiense
      Ítalo Calazans Valiense

      Azul lindo! 😍

      about 7 months ago
    • Lach Elting
      Lach Elting

      OMPH

      about 7 months ago
    • Bastilla S.
      Bastilla S.

      Dont be fooled, the 'vegan' seat optoon is purely marketing bs targeted at rich vegans. Nothing beats leather seats, easy to maintain and clean, durable and comfortable. When getting a range rover only get the essential options and avoid the rest electronic and mechanical nice to have. That way, you lessen your headache and mininize trips to the 'infamous' service center. Thats if you really prefer a RR over other brands. RR are really the best-looking SUVs, but best SUV, no.

      about 8 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Bastilla S.

      Thanks for reading! Great that there are people out there taking the time to digest the information we've put together over those years. Yeah I hope so, we are pushing the industry to use materials that are not only more sustainable but at the same time better and more practical. That's the goal!

      about 8 months ago
    • Bastilla S.
      Bastilla S. In reply to Bastilla S.

      +Autogefühl
       Thanks Autogefühl/Thomas for sharing this info. Hopefully, this would put awareness to more folks out there reading this thread. Good points you put together, if this was a business presentation, it would get a solid nod from your clients.

      R&D should continue to develop other alternatives to leather aside from alcantara/ leatherette/other cloth based materials. If you have kids, then chances are they have spilled something in your seat. Happened to me twice with a non-leather cloth-based seat. It was not pretty.

      about 8 months ago
    • Autogefühl
      Autogefühl In reply to Bastilla S.

      We have researched this issue for many years now so please take your time to go through our extensive resources stated below as they answer every single question we have yet received concerning this matter.

      At Autogefühl, we have already received several thousands (!) comments, messages and mails that more and more people want to combine enjoying their car with reducing the environmental impact at the same time. We believe that sustainable luxury is possible or at least we should do everything to support that. Those many thousand people confirming this trend, motivate us to give you the most authentic information and background on the product parts. It is not about what you bought in the past, and it is not about blaming anyone, it is about what you decide in the future and what you can decide and influence as a customer. So we want you to have all information that you need for a decision you later enjoy and like best yourself.

      In Summer 2017, Tesla motors has decided to be the first manufacturer to go all the way with sustainable seat materials, only offering fabric/cloth seats or leatherette seats in different colours. They have banned all real leather from the seating surface and at the steering wheel in the white trim or on demand. So Tesla shows where the industry will and must be heading, just like they went forward with electrification first.

      Check out our special video addressing car CEOs as a first summary and also see conditions of animal skin production:
      https://youtu.be/LNSUzZXzpdc

      List of practical reasons against animal skin seats:


      1. animal skin seats are often sold as an expensive option, by going for base trim level seats you can save a lot of money and get a better price-performance-deal (often the manufacturers claim that animal leather is top of luxury because they can earn the best money with it)
      2. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat, probably you need seat cooling
      3. they get very cold in winter and you need seat heating
      4. on cloth or microfibre surfaces, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling
      5. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like an old sofa
      6. if you want leather look or need seats that can be wiped clean easier, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review https://youtu.be/y2wNGFKa4M0) So Tesla shows a good example for that and as described, non-leather materials are now standard for ALL Tesla
      7. More manufacturer names for their good alternatives: Mercedes MBTex/Artico for leatherette, Dinamica for microfibre. BMW Sensatec, Toyota Sof-Tex, Lexus Nu-Luxe (all faux leather)




      To the environmental reasons:


      1. The way the cows and other intelligent and social animals are raised and held are not according to the basic values that we all share (also see videos below)
      2. The factory farming industry can be accounted for at least 40 % of climate emissions and thus is (according to numerous sources you can look up) the number one reason for climate change and environmental destruction. It is the number one reason for deforestation, two thirds of all agricultural land on earth is used for growing animal food crops. If you would feed humans directly by using the agricultural land, you could produce much more food for everyone. See this interesting essay for more on climate emissions background: http://www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf
      3. It is not only cows who are suffering, but also the environment and to a big part also humans. Think of slavery-like working conditions in slaughterhouses (there are plenty of documentaries about this) or think of chemically altered drinking water in animal skin production villages as also seen in the video footage.
      4. The discussion, for which body part the cow is killed first, is very patronizing. But if you really think it would be important why someone gets killed in first place: There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even while still being (part-)alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body.
      5. So even if a cow gets theoretically killed for meat first, in every case you give additional money to an industry that relies on killing, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". A the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover up that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy.
      6. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: http://adaptt.org/




      To “But leatherette is not sustainable due to petrochemical production”
      1. Indeed some fabrics and micro fibres are oil based, however most oil is spent on energy production, heating and fuel. The share of oil used for artificial cloth etc. is very very small.
      2. If you look at the whole production process, the leatherette is way more sustainable than the leather produce. Even if you leave the ethical aspect aside, here is the official calculation of the CO2-Output animal skin vs leatherette (different kinds of leatherette):
      Leather 17 kg CO2/m²
      PVC leatherette 10 kg CO2/m²
      Acella Eco natural leatherette 8,5 kg CO2/m²
      Benova (PUR leatherette): 8 kg CO2/m²
      So by using the latest high-tech leatherette, you even the CO2-emissions are cut in half!
      3. The best to-come solution are indeed plant-based materials like Pinatex (based on pineapple leaves) or new materials based on mycelia (roots of mushrooms) or other innovative natural products. That’s the future.


      More special video episodes:


      1. A initial special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f91KgbVbJQ
      2. And another one right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMNgcLE0LDU
      3. Furthermore, you’ll find the footage of leather production also here, where people are walking in chemicals etc. and animals have to watch their friends being slaughtered in front of their eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JipYvuDsI6s
      timecode starting 27:46
      4. This is another video which very well summarizes the torture of leather production, shots taken at big farms which directly produce for the automotive industry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgHs239bAnE
      5. Please note that those videos are made by well-known journalists and cameramen who were not influenced by any animal welfare organisation, they supply their footage to the animal rights groups of course. I partly know the creators of the video footage personally and they are all authentic. You don’t have to search long to find cruel production environments anyway.


      Manufacturers reactions:

      We started the very first inquiry years ago, with the result that car manufacturers do not reveal their sources of animal skin AT ALL. If it all would be clean and happening without harm, why don’t they show it to us whereas they are showing us every other detail of their products? They have good reason not to, because there is no such thing as a clean animal skin production without harming cows, humans and the environment. The only thing a manufacturer can do is increase their effort for a better future, and we are helping with in-depth talks and interviews by presenting the increasing customer demand for sustainable luxury. Tesla was the first one to react in a major way now.

      So meanwhile, we more often also get feedback that a lot of manufacturers are working on leather-free interiors and are aware of the situation. E.g. Bentley, Mini and Kia have started vegan car interior programmes. Besides Tesla, Mercedes already shows major choices for sustainable interiors, you always have to pay attention to the details when ordering, of course - and we are happy to give advice. However, much has to be done still and the Autogefuehl community is massively helping in boosting the positive change!


      Help to raise awareness on this subject. Thanks!

      about 8 months ago
    • Bastilla S.
      Bastilla S.

      Only if range rover or all car brands for that matter would only listen to customer feedback from youtubers and the comments section in general. What a car they would have.

      about 8 months ago