Small Motorcycles - Does Size Matter?

Small bikes: are they big fun, or just gateway motorcycles to much larger machines? Lemmy, Spurgeon, and Joe are back for another discussion, and this time they’re unpacking the small bike segment. From beginner bikes to off-roaders to sharp race machines, there’s lots to say about the tiny side of two wheels. The guys also explore common ideas like “outgrowing a motorcycle” and “a slow bike fast is more fun than a fast bike slow”. Get comfortable and tune in to hear their thoughts. To get the extended podcast for a longer, uncut experience, High Side / Low Side is now available in podcast form:


    • RevZilla

      If you want to check out the podcast head on over to Common Tread for the uncut version of the episode!

      about 7 months ago
    • Mehdiuniversal
      Mehdiuniversal In reply to RevZilla

      I got a problem, i just bought a 701 husky but only have 100km on it and now the last 10km on the bike it shuts down while riding ,it happend 3 times what could it be ?

      about 3 months ago
    • random_ cocaine46
      random_ cocaine46 In reply to RevZilla

      Spotify is not available here india so can you please try on google podcast for us android users

      about 7 months ago
    • Robert Brockmann
      Robert Brockmann In reply to RevZilla

      Guys I enjoy your talks, but I never cease to wonder how spoiled American users generally are. Here in South America I knew a girl who is crossing the continent in a 125cc. She is not a mainstream case, but by no means is she an exception. I have a 250 and a 800cc. I enjoy my 250 more and I cannot imagine why would anybody need anything bigger than 800.

      about 7 months ago
    • Sameh Souissi
      Sameh Souissi In reply to RevZilla

      @ZLA Lemmy hahahah, thanks for the comments Buddy, I hope u consider coming to Malaysia for a ride. We can do the thousand corner road trip. Keep up the good work guys. Cheers

      about 7 months ago
    • ZLA Lemmy
      ZLA Lemmy In reply to RevZilla

      @Sameh Souissi I don't say hi to everyone because my fingers would fall off from typing if I did that ;)

      about 7 months ago
    • Dylan Morrison
      Dylan Morrison

      That's not Spurgeon, that's the police chief Hopper from Stranger Things.

      about 2 days ago
    • patrolus1

      Bikes need to get bigger because riders are getting bigger.... Time to shed some pounds guys!

      about 2 days ago
    • Stoney Lawson
      Stoney Lawson

      I agree with Lemy, you absolutely need something to scare the shit out of you, and humble you.

      about 3 days ago
    • Sergio Zuany
      Sergio Zuany

      Google Kawasaki w175, you nerds.

      about 4 days ago
    • ciszero

      how about a combination of: weight, height, displacement. Make a formula and determine it based off of a combination of the three?

      about 5 days ago
    • ACHPKP

      I' m in my 60's, and haven't owned/ridden a Cycle for 25 years. At 6' 3" I stand next to most Cruisers (my fav), and
      they all seem too small. I love the Look of a mid-50's Harley...dislike the look of Ape Handlebars, & would settle for
      much lower Handlebars. The size of an Indian Touring, or Harley Touring, would be most likely to fit me, without
      all the Baggage---I also love their Look, but ANY Brand Name.  What (used) Bike would you (anyone), Suggest?
      Also, must have a fat front tire, with bigger fender. Casual weekend riding. I'm on a budget. Thanks !!!

      about 5 days ago
    • RevZilla
      RevZilla In reply to ACHPKP

      I'd probably recommend a used Harley Softail Deluxe and just choose the model year according to your budget, since that looks the most like a mid-50s FL. -DrewZilla

      about 5 days ago
    • numberxx7

      Makes me wonder, where is the continued evaluation of the CSC 250 little cafe racer?

      about 7 days ago
    • RevZilla
      RevZilla In reply to numberxx7

      Here are the updates so far. -DrewZilla

      about 6 days ago
    • Thakery

      Bigger IS better - you need more between you legs and less around your waist !

      Bigger inch engines are much better..... what did you think I was talking about ?

      about 9 days ago
    • Fetter Bambusbjörn
      Fetter Bambusbjörn

      In my opinion everything my 600ccm/30kw/41ps Honda needs also my old 125ccm/8kw/11ps Yamaha has, except the Motor. But the Driving Comfort and the Fun is the same. I drove my 125ccm from Austria to Southern Italy with a Friend who had a 250ccm and altough there were some Problems it was really funny tour.

      about 16 days ago
    • Alejandro González Flores
      Alejandro González Flores

      Great honest conversation about being practical when choosing a bike size....thanks!

      about 17 days ago
    • Greg Carpenter
      Greg Carpenter

      I have ridden many bikes of all styles and categories, and lots of big ones , too. I bought a Suzuki TU250X a couple of years ago and let me say that it is more fun than any large displacement bikes I have ever ridden! In the city as well as on winding country roads it just feels right in every way! It feels organic - like an exention of my body. I love working through all the gears to the high points and sailing along in the sweet spots of 4th and 5th...When I finish a ride I start thinking about the bike and the next time I'm going to ride it...!

      about 17 days ago
    • Mike Harrington
      Mike Harrington

      Im way late to the comments. My dad is 80 and been riding since 1972. Retired in 95. Adequatel retirement income but not extravagant. Had to sell his 1996 Goldwing a year ago. Goldwing too tall too heavy he kept falling over. Trike NOT an option $$. He was depressed he could no longer ride. I bought him a 2005 Rebel 250 as a surprise. I added saddle bags. He loves it! Low seat height, narrow, 300lbs and bike looks sharp as hell. Will give him possible 5 more years of of riding.

      about 18 days ago
    • Alex

      My first road bike was a Honda Shadow 750, putting out around 50 horsepower. I've ridden it 30K miles or so over the last five years. It was the perfect bike to learn on. The handling is forgiving, the center of weight and seat height is low enough to flat foot, and it's got enough power for me to ride fairly hard or to carry a passenger. I am at a point where I would like a little more power and some more modern electronics and suspension, but the Shadow has been a great bike to learn and grow with for years.

      about 19 days ago
    • Travis C
      Travis C

      As someone 20-25...It is both for the fun and for the practicality, millenials I would contend are one of the more money conscious generation because we were (arguably) the group that watched and can remember the '08 recession hit and how it negatively effects peoples lives. Having that in the back of our minds creates that need to get the most bang for your buck even if it may mean you may be buying out of your capabilities. Frankly it also somewhat explains why the smaller standard and naked bikes are becoming more and more popular because they are actually realistic to peoples daily lives.

      about 20 days ago
    • Darryl

      south east asia's cub motorcycle is definitely in the small bike categories. 135cc and below and priced around USD1500 and lower. and it is physically small too

      about 20 days ago

      Buy a DF RTX 50cc Scooter i bet you like it!!!

      about 23 days ago
    • Terry Pukalo
      Terry Pukalo

      Great banter guys! Your friendly disagreements made for an interesting and entertaining video. About the small bikes: I took the Canadian version of the MSF course on a Suzuki Tu 250x and I loved that bike too. One day when I have more room in the garage, I will pick that up too even though I have a 1731cc Victory Vegas now. There is certainly something joyous about that little bike that does not disappoint. Great video!

      about 25 days ago
    • John

      Started riding after college on a 6-year-old RD400. Only 45HP, but when you hit the powerband, oh my GOD! I still cream my jeans when I hear or smell a 2-stroke. In 1989 I bought the brand new FZR 600 with around 95HP. I was smoking 750s all over town. Rode that bike for ten years. Next a Ducati ST4, then a BMW R1200GS, and now a BMW R1200R. The BMW has to be the easiest bike in the world to ride around town. You can downshift if you want, but you really don't have to until you stop.

      What's a small motorcycle? I consider a bike too small if you can't cruise on the highway without running the engine at or above 3/4 of the redline, or it rattles your fillings loose at highway speeds.

      The thing is today, the top bikes are making 200+ HP, which none of us need on the street. At the same time, we have bikes like the Speed Triple or the MV Brutale, that will scare you straight. Riders are seeing that you can get plenty of power from a smaller displacement bike, equipped with the same top-spec parts as the big boys, and it gives them more choices. You also don't have to choose between an uncomfortable crotch-rocket or a slow as hell and more comfortable standard/naked bike. If I didn't think that KTMs were the ugliest bikes on the road, I would seriously consider adding a new Duke 790 to my garage. Right now, I think we're living in the Golden Age of motorcycles. Let's enjoy it while we can.

      about 26 days ago
    • carlilez

      I dont care what anyone says, my dream bike is an Iron 883. Im 6ft tall and I sit very comfortably on that bike.

      about 27 days ago
    • Lonny Fuller
      Lonny Fuller

      I'm 5ft 8 29in. Inseam. I've rided off and on since 1976. I'm 56 years old with bad knees. Looking to get ridding again my dream bik is a Harley. Thinking about the Fat boy. Want to ride around home and maybe do the Daytona and Sturgis runs. Am open to input.

      about 27 days ago
    • Johnny James
      Johnny James

      Having ridden 50cc scooters and 900f Honda and fj1200 Yamaha my take is bigger is better providing that the throttle hand is NOT controlled by adrenaline.

      about 27 days ago
    • MonkeyFreeZone

      "New riders get hung up on the displacement number" -- I certainly did when I was a new rider. Thankfully I had a good guide at the dealership. Liked the way you tackled this topic, guys.

      about 28 days ago
    • Kevin Henretty
      Kevin Henretty

      In my opinion, I don't think that people out grown the engine. Maybe a beginning rider on a some of those 250's. I think that people outgrow components. I love the idea of the factory putting a little higher quality parts on their "beginner" bikes!

      about 28 days ago
    • Keithulhu L7
      Keithulhu L7

      A bike that scares you is good for your soul. Can confirm.

      about 29 days ago
    • Raj S
      Raj S

      I've been riding a 2007 Honda Shadow 750 cc for five months now. First cruiser I've ever owned. Thought the displacement was small to begin with, but boy was I wrong! Nice and maneuverable in the City and can keep up on the highway too! Maybe I'll go up to 1000cc max in the future but well see. Need to test drive a few larger bikes before I make that decision.

      about 29 days ago
    • Terry Monks
      Terry Monks

      I learned on a small bike, but what I could never get over was the boring sound. I bought a bigger bike just for a better sound.

      about 29 days ago
    • Dark Ru
      Dark Ru

      I just want a bike that i can stay with until it dies i dont really think you have to grow and grow in cc levels until you are at the melt your face off point like a h2 or panigale. But hey you do you, get what bike you want just dont hurt yourself

      about 29 days ago
    • cplcarlman

      This is something I've been asking about for a while. I am 6'1" and weigh about 260. I've been looking to get back into riding as I've been out of the scene since I sold my RZ350 way back in 1995. I really like the Suzuki SV650, Yamaha XSR700, and the Honda CB650R. However, would a Honda CB300R or a similar bike do the trick for mostly in-town riding?

      about 29 days ago
    • cplcarlman
      cplcarlman In reply to cplcarlman

      @RevZilla Thanks mate!

      about 28 days ago
    • RevZilla
      RevZilla In reply to cplcarlman

      A CB300R or Kawi Z400 would definitely do the trick for in-town riding. -DrewZilla

      about 28 days ago
    • Michael Cooper
      Michael Cooper

      Dude on the right needs to stfu and let the other guys talk for once smh

      about 1 month ago