IFS vs LIVE AXLE, Off-road

0:00 intro
0:20 the difference
2:37 Handling
2:58 Comfort
4:00 Underbody clearance
4:45 Wheel alignment
5:09 Strength
7:06 Heavy Loads
7:35 Diff Centres
8:00 CV's IFS vs LIVE
10:23 Sand dunes at speed
11:30 Modify


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Comments

    • Lisa Wilson
      Lisa Wilson

      live axles because diff look

      about 20 hours ago
    • HVT Muddvain
      HVT Muddvain

      You would be out of your mind to think that IFS in strength would ever compete with solid axles. However i think you should compare more apples to apples a landrover/landcruiser/jeep is built for offroad and overlanding in mind. So dont pick a modded f150 or chevy or ranger what about the hummer h1-h2 the raptors more of a off road in mind built vehicle. I mean both hummer h2 and the raptors come with stock 35” tires my cvs are nice and straight no hard binds on my H2 with 37” toyo mt’s no lift needed not even cranking the keys. Good vid and very good info about the differences and im not saying hummers or raptors are anywhere close to a solid axle strength but are a better suited off road build in mind thought process vs just some 1/2ton or 3/4 ton pickup. Just my .02 cents

      about 1 day ago
    • Harry Harris
      Harry Harris

      Good rundown thanks mate

      about 2 days ago
    • MAD MAORI
      MAD MAORI

      No off-road comparison

      about 2 days ago
    • Fenrir
      Fenrir

      Must say that the number plate of the Land cruiser is a top one.

      about 2 days ago
    • Danny Parker
      Danny Parker

      WELL NO one has ever took a live axle truck to IFS only IFS to live axle.. I rest my case. I'll keep my live axle f250 and you can keep the IFS CRAP

      about 5 days ago
    • Indrid Cold
      Indrid Cold

      In my car, it will never have a solid axle in the back. In my 4x4, it will never have independent front suspension. I have preferences for both on certain vehicles.

      about 6 days ago
    • rabie4x4
      rabie4x4

      I've only ever seen IFS to solid axle swaps, never the other way.

      about 7 days ago
    • Lane Dexter
      Lane Dexter

      It is worth noting that independent suspension vehicles DESIGNED for hard offroad use can be very good.  M151, Hummer, Pinzgauer, come to mind.  But the independent for offroad is a compromise.  The U.S. stopped surplusing the M151 in operable form, because it was so dangerous on the road, when in the hands of inexperienced drivers.

      about 8 days ago
    • brianbirc
      brianbirc

      That is a way to look at that IFS. If you are running a Ford Twin Traction Beam 4x4 then it changes.
      A cut and turned beam gusseted and plated with tall shock mounts strapped for droop with real .shocks. You can take big whoops way faster up dunes and jump off the top. There are no CV joints. Lets see you follow this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIYPKwUbzNE
      With 4x4 YES... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGPiooXsEyQ How about doing this in the solid axle?....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyiSSQ0xVnk&t=529s Nah you will just see and hear this getting passed in my Burrow Brah...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4lSk48-_0o

      about 8 days ago
    • Joe Pearson
      Joe Pearson

      I always use live axles off road. They are stronger and a pleasure to work on. I get sick of beating my head against the wall replacing wheel hubs that have bonded to the aluminum knuckles on the IFS. Love the videos. Thanks from the U.S.

      about 10 days ago
    • Rock Fossil
      Rock Fossil

      IFS = Is For Sissy

      about 11 days ago
    • Mal
      Mal

      Touring and mild 4WDing - IFS. Serious 4WD - solid axle.

      about 11 days ago
    • James Bradley
      James Bradley

      Have you ever seen an old Volvo 850 in a head on crash with a shitty little Renault ? Let me tell you , old cars are no Mach for new ones with regards to strength! They may have crumple zones but the chase is waaaaay stronger on new cars ! Better design better materials .

      about 12 days ago
    • peter barber
      peter barber

      not much towing different between 79s land crusier and ranger

      about 12 days ago
    • M&M Overland Adventures
      M&M Overland Adventures

      Definitely wish for a diesel Landcruiser with a flatbed.

      about 13 days ago
    • barry
      barry

      I reckon that was a damn good basic explanation with a really good and balanced conclusion..... depends on what you want the vehicle for. I'm an 80 series owner and have been on serious inland tracks, Central Highway, Gibb River, Tannami Track, Wolfe Creek Crater, Steep Point and so many in between. This vehicle is strong 30K kilometres of serious inland work. So live axle certainly are strong. Just a comment re comfort, I believe the average motorist would not be able to really pick a solid axle from IFS on normal rough roads. My cruiser has two inch lift and HD springs with Kohni? shocks with a good load comfort is very good, no chop or harshness. So I believe comfort should be low on the comparison issue, look more at what you want your 4x4 for. Good vid liked the straight forward explanations

      about 13 days ago
    • Rat Killaz
      Rat Killaz

      You can't compare a toyota to a ford a toyota can go any were and do any thaing and a ford ranger is just a piece of cheap.

      about 14 days ago
    • Dino's Shed
      Dino's Shed

      Seeing you can only legally go two inch lift I guess that’s not a huge problem although the cv angle cops it at anything above standard height. Land Rover Discovery has a good system with adjustable height, if only you could throw bigger rubber on them. Solid axle and portal drop boxes wins.

      about 14 days ago
    • Dino's Shed
      Dino's Shed In reply to Dino's Shed

      Yeah our Queensland regs differ depending on which way you want to go, in any case a three inch lift with one inch taller tyres is going to look shite.

      about 11 days ago
    • peter barber
      peter barber In reply to Dino's Shed

      +Dino's Shed in NSW and VIC you can do 75mm body and 25mm tyre

      about 11 days ago
    • Dino's Shed
      Dino's Shed In reply to Dino's Shed

      Maximum ‘total’ including suspension, body and tyre lift is 150mm last I knew

      about 11 days ago
    • peter barber
      peter barber In reply to Dino's Shed

      +Dino's Shed your al allowd a 4" lift

      about 12 days ago
    • Dino's Shed
      Dino's Shed In reply to Dino's Shed

      Exactly, all these off road shows have illegal modifications done, no way they’re engineered for 4 inch lifts and 35’s, not in Australia anyway.

      about 12 days ago
    • settimio lucctti
      settimio lucctti

      Landcruiser wins any day if you want comfortable and easy stay on your couch

      about 17 days ago
    • Bruce Gonsalves
      Bruce Gonsalves

      Do a vid on the Landrovers Discovery 2 please Ronny

      about 18 days ago
    • Anon Moose
      Anon Moose

      Love your work on these videos, not looking to offroad anytime soon but enjoy learning more and more about it anyway (just in case), you have good and interesting topics and seem to give as fair an assessment as possible.

      about 23 days ago
    • Mohamed Adam Torky
      Mohamed Adam Torky

      Now I see

      about 23 days ago
    • Alex Frankl
      Alex Frankl

      And both are capped at 50mm odd max lift , legally , so tyres is next but same legal limits .

      about 23 days ago
    • John Bango
      John Bango

      Great and through comparison. I love my Jeep with the solid axle and leaf springs. Yes it is a kidney puncher. The debate of coil over leaf is like the debate over solid vs ifs. Pros and cons. The biggest surprise I got out of the video was the closed knuckle on the solid axle. I have not seen that since my dad's 73 Jeep. Love to know the pros and cons on that. I do know that an open knuckle has a shorter turning radius.

      about 24 days ago
    • Trevor Manger
      Trevor Manger

      I wonder what his take would be on an 2008+ Nissan Xterra. IFS and solid axel rear with leaf springs

      about 25 days ago
    • Nope No
      Nope No

      Live axle play. Ifs for every day driving. Most I know pull there live axle out to the wood with there ifs

      about 25 days ago
    • Falcon 4917
      Falcon 4917

      Ifs is better in mud and snow because of clearance. It is more parts but can be more durable(not to be confused with stronger) than live axle because they can often absorb impacts better especially if off balance like in trophy trucks both 2 and 4 wheel drive. It's just like the argument between lockers vs traction control. Lockers are great across rocks, deep mud etc but traction control is better at slippy sideways action where lockers will be more likely to let you slip down a bank you have to take at an angle while the traction control keeps some wheels inactive allowing them to function as guide wheels while others are the drive wheels. But in general and for most people he is spot on and they would be wise to listen to him.

      about 26 days ago
    • cmlegend
      cmlegend

      Really educational!! Thanks... I love my jeep even more now!

      about 26 days ago
    • fuckusername87
      fuckusername87

      Mate I live in wa and am looking at buying my first 4x4.. it's daunting tho, if you are ever in the 6210 area is love a beer and yarn

      about 27 days ago