Are Electric Cars Greener Than Gasoline Powered Cars?
The Facts About Electric Cars & The Environment - Sponsored by FE
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Electric cars are touted as a solution for reducing emissions and improving the environmental impacts of transportation, but are electric cars actually any better for the environment than gasoline cars? This video looks to answer three main questions:
1) Doesn't EV battery production cause a lot of emissions?
2) Don't electric cars get their power from fossil fuels?
3) Isn't lithium mining terrible for the environment?

References:
MIT Emissions Study - bit.ly/2zeYfqd
Cradle To Grave Emissions Estimates - bit.ly/2rEhB4D
Vehicle Production Emission Estimates (Low) - bit.ly/2yGoEh8
Vehicle Production Emission Estimates - bit.ly/2yoX6hC
Vehicle Production Emission Estimates (High) - bit.ly/2dhB1Tu
EV Battery Production Emissions - bit.ly/2yCMwSY
End Of Life Emissions - bit.ly/2ETHh77
Annual Vehicle Use Emissions - bit.ly/2Sxo65K

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3. Tuning Electric Cars - automobilrevue.net/v/T2d5TW5QWnZHVzA
4. 300 MPH Electric Production Car - automobilrevue.net/v/bjhicnhyTFNyeWM
5. How EVs Beat ICE - automobilrevue.net/v/dmtfX2YyOHllTHM
6. My New Car Is Electric - automobilrevue.net/v/Rk4wZzRmRHE4TVE
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8. Horsepower vs Torque - EV vs Gas - automobilrevue.net/v/Nll1VHBQcjNVdjA
9. Electric Car Battery Recycling - automobilrevue.net/v/MW1YU013WlVpQ1U

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    • Engineering Explained
      Engineering Explained

      Hope everyone's having a great day! I put a ton of time into researching this video, and was surprised numerous times to learn about the differences in lifecycle emissions between gasoline cars and electric cars. It's a fascinating subject and I'm sure we can keep the discussion below civil! (That was a joke 😜). If you were curious about the battery video referenced towards the end, here's the link: https://youtu.be/1mXSMwZUiCU

      about 1 year ago
    • Joel Rolley
      Joel Rolley In reply to Engineering Explained

      You forgot the environmental factor of battery disposal. You only take into account carbon using the left wing climate change thinking that carbon is the worst thing in the world

      about 8 hours ago
    • JEFF BRANSKY
      JEFF BRANSKY In reply to Engineering Explained

      Arcadius Miechur Modern electric motors produce no ozone at all. Ozone is produced when an electric spark is created in the presence of oxygen turning O2 into O3 (ozone). In motors that use brushes, the brushes make and break electrical contact with the rotating commutator causing sparks. There are no sparks created in brushless motors. Virtually all AC and DC motors in use today are brushless.

      about 13 hours ago
    • rcwheeler
      rcwheeler In reply to Engineering Explained

      Try your test and check your stats in freezing cold please

      about 7 days ago
    • Beatriz Tacão
      Beatriz Tacão In reply to Engineering Explained

      daaaamn! this video just cleared my miind so muuuch!
      THANK YOU SIR! they want to start charging pluging your car.. what's your opinion on that if not asking to much 😅
      either ways it was awesome, thaaankz

      about 8 days ago
    • montanho09
      montanho09 In reply to Engineering Explained

      You did a great job researching all this info - Thank you!
      - small concern though, what kind of environmental affects do we have when getting rid of old batteries, I think that should be added to this equation. However, I do agree ev brings us closer to a cleaner planet, specially when we use clean electricity (solar) to recharge our ev’s.
      Cosmic blesses!

      about 13 days ago
    • Srinivas Varanasi
      Srinivas Varanasi

      Nice analysis.

      about 1 hour ago
    • Spoiled ToeMilk
      Spoiled ToeMilk

      this is the son of the american pickers dude

      about 7 hours ago
    • Thomas Kiger
      Thomas Kiger

      You need to take in end of life for the cars. Electric are make of more exotic materials that are often not recyclable. Plus the electronic controls and batteries contain toxic materials that cost a lot of money and energy to dispose of properly which is not happening now.

      about 15 hours ago
    • Thomas Kiger
      Thomas Kiger In reply to Thomas Kiger

      There was a study done of all cars for sale in the US in 2010. They found the Prius to be second to worse for the environment. It is over 80% none recyclable. It's about more than CO2 emissions it's about ground water poisoning also

      about 15 hours ago
    • Membrane556
      Membrane556

      Lithium mining is not actually all that bad for the environment but cobalt mining on the other hand is very polluting and makes use of child labor.

      about 15 hours ago
    • Ollie B
      Ollie B

      If vehicles used mostly in the city were electric, the air would be a lot cleaner, fewer people would die. For highway driving or long distance haulier, it might be ok to used combustion. My point is to take the pollution out of the city where most people live.

      about 17 hours ago
    • C N
      C N

      Its crazy how many people will come give there 2 cents because they read some propaganda page from googling. You can google bias to find a written paper to back up exactly what you want to hear despite the article not citing where it research came from. People who probably barley made it through high school and cant even do algebra are now experts in the field of science with the degree they earned from google. Yes im referring to the global warming deniers.

      about 17 hours ago
    • Jim Bob
      Jim Bob

      Bro bro bro you need to factor i. Gasoline production, personnel solar panels, gasoline transportation, all the production that goes into repairing moving parts and idk the batteries in gasoline cars.

      about 21 hour ago
    • Sergei Bash
      Sergei Bash

      Gasoline is going to run out eventually. There is no choice anyway.

      about 1 day ago
    • Austin Wen
      Austin Wen

      What is the difference between an electric car and a plug-in?

      about 1 day ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Austin Wen

      Plug ins usually refer to a hybrid car that doesnt generate its own electricity but stores in a battery

      about 1 day ago
    • Timothy Germann
      Timothy Germann

      West Virginia has more goobers rollin' coal than driving EVs.

      about 1 day ago
    • Dr Pancake Face
      Dr Pancake Face

      What we need is a steam hybrid car. Electric battery and engine to get you started and then the steam engine will kick in once the pressure is built up and run the car while recharging the batteries used by the electric engine. All your power production is in the car and your emissions are steam which comes right back down as rain.

      about 1 day ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Dr Pancake Face

      @Dr Pancake Face the later deduction seems the most plausible to me, to be your intention. As in a previous comment, you stated. "The battery would power the induction coil which would in tern make steam. The steam would propel the car when there is pressure, and there would be a turbine in the system to recharge the battery"

      Which seems closest to the second deduction and is equivlently saying that you're going to charge the battery, using the battery.

      about 1 day ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Dr Pancake Face

      @Dr Pancake Face feel free to correct me.

      about 1 day ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Dr Pancake Face

      @Dr Pancake Face in either scenario, unless you have a seperate energy source for the steam, such as burning coal or wood (in which case it wouldn't be emission friendly as you stated) running on steam would just end up being horribly less efficient that just running on induction motors powered by the battery.

      about 1 day ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Dr Pancake Face

      @Dr Pancake Face not really. Thats like asking how steam is produced in a steam train. And getting the response of "heat exchanger". Duh, most people would answer with coal or wood.

      In this case i assumed you mean its to be powered by a battery.

      If that is the case, then there is no point diverting the battery energy to make steam, and then to use that steam for propulsion. As it would waste far more energy than just driving directly from the motors. Hence, second law of thermodynamics.

      The other deduction i can make from that is that you think that if the car is powered by steam, heated from the battery, it can produce propulsion via a piston or turbine which can somehow be used to produce more energy for heating of water. In this case, the first law of thermodynamics prevents this.

      about 1 day ago
    • Dr Pancake Face
      Dr Pancake Face In reply to Dr Pancake Face

      @NotTheCIA I.think All you asked was how the steam was generated. I answered that question.

      about 1 day ago
    • Tenderizer17
      Tenderizer17

      It's not a good idea for the environment to replace your gasoline car with an electric one, those new cars are pretty expensive so you might aswell buy a solar power system (especially if you live in the deserts of southern america).

      about 1 day ago
    • Relaxing Gaming
      Relaxing Gaming

      2.3k flatard cousin disliked this video

      about 1 day ago
    • hardlyb
      hardlyb

      Picking on CO2 is, in my opinion, misleading. I know that this is the great bugaboo at the moment, and I don't think that using up all the fossil fuels is something to do casually, but I'm much more concerned about air and water pollution than I am CO2 levels right now.

      about 2 days ago
    • Paesan Control Centre
      Paesan Control Centre In reply to hardlyb

      Nobody cares what you say, coal troll.

      about 1 day ago
    • S4ndwichGurk3
      S4ndwichGurk3

      Sadly you didn't tell about gasoline production / transportation.
      Because 6L of diesel needs about 42kwh of energy just for production.. You could drive over 200km with EVs for that

      about 2 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to S4ndwichGurk3

      Howd you calculate that?

      about 2 days ago
    • pear7777
      pear7777

      AND batteries that were too old for an electric car can do years of service in a house installation.

      about 2 days ago
    • Scrapman Industries Scrap processing
      Scrapman Industries Scrap processing

      the biggest take away for me is that most people only drive 30 miles a day on average. Well within a reasonable daily biking distance. why even have a car then? I was riding my bike 34 miles a day. 17 miles each way to work and back for awhile.

      about 2 days ago
    • Jon Laurenson
      Jon Laurenson

      Bogus Basin Road!

      about 2 days ago
    • Greg Naylor
      Greg Naylor

      You got 5.2 tonne per year for the running of an internal combustion engine while that might be average I've got in front of me from.the UK Gov website the average of a internal combustion engine from 2015 is about 1.25 tonne per year for 10k miles (2019 even more efficient) so if I was to buy a brand new car of either fuel or electric the fuel car would probably be better and last longer

      about 2 days ago
    • Greg Naylor
      Greg Naylor In reply to Greg Naylor

      @NotTheCIA I.think I got 0.04 tonnes for 10 year use?

      about 2 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Greg Naylor

      @Greg Naylor if i may ask, where did you get 33T from? Modern ev Batteries typically last a minimum of 250,000 miles. Experts slating 2019 batteries to past well over 500,000. They'll last 20-30 years.

      about 2 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Greg Naylor

      @Greg Naylor basic googling. Google shows coal refineries use 1,000g per kWh, oil at 800g/kwh and gas at 500.

      According to the department of energy refineries used at total of 42 terrwatt hours of grid energy to make 5.6 billion barrels of oil. Which levels out to around 0.03kwh per L.

      They also state that a refinery typically only requires 15% of its energy needs from the grid as it produces its own electricty from it's own product (oil).

      Couple that with the cars fuel consumption. Follow the maths

      about 2 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Greg Naylor

      Sorry. 0.03kwh per L. So thats 4 grams, and 160 grams respectively making a grand total of 298 grams per km.

      about 2 days ago
    • Greg Naylor
      Greg Naylor In reply to Greg Naylor

      @NotTheCIA I.think I'm not ani electric car by the way. Just looking into it, my calculations were 3.8 Tonne more for the smaller battery and 23.2 for the larger over 10 years (1 battery change) but like you said I didn't calculate refinery

      about 2 days ago
    • Mike Strang
      Mike Strang

      I drive a air-cooled vw bus you want to talk about a carbon foot print BUT I have been driving it from the 70s (its a 71) and I have never bought a new car so how am I doing--------discuss.

      about 2 days ago
    • Paesan Control Centre
      Paesan Control Centre In reply to Mike Strang

      You'd be doing better if you converted it in the 2000s...

      about 1 day ago
    • Mike Strang
      Mike Strang

      I would like to see the stats on places like Alaska where we have half a year of winter so how good is the heat in those cars and what about the 4x4 models.

      about 2 days ago
    • Paul Powell
      Paul Powell

      Tesla Owner says Science is a myth, film at 11

      about 3 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Paul Powell

      Film at 11? Science is a myth? What are you talking about?

      about 3 days ago
    • Paul Powell
      Paul Powell

      When they have an Solar powered Battery commercial flight from NYC to Hawaii for 5 years with no issues I'll buy.

      about 3 days ago
    • Paesan Control Centre
      Paesan Control Centre In reply to Paul Powell

      Clown.

      about 1 day ago
    • Cody
      Cody

      What about when gas cars had less plastic? And lasted longer? Seriously the "emissions control equipment" is just trash thrown on to cost more in repairs. My old 81 vw rabbit had minimal plastic and got about 50mpg with a 1.9l diesel. 38 year old car still was more efficient than a new electric vehicle and had less impact on emissions at time of production

      about 3 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Cody

      Technically electrics are more efficient than any ice car. Ice cars waste about 80% of the energy released by fuel, EV's only waste approximatley 2-8%.

      And whilst emissions during manufacturing are high for EV's it equates to about 1 ton of co2 per car more than a combustion car. However a combustion car will go on to spew out around 20-30 more tons of co2 over a 20 year lifespan.

      about 3 days ago
    • nick b
      nick b

      The main issue here is the consumer cost. I purchased a Honda diesel for 2k 9 years ago with 95k on the clock, if driven 120k and the engine is still like new. So 2k for 9 years driving. Electric is 30k plus, so in my case I don't have 30k as most don't to spank on a car and theres no decent second hand cars to buy. So your average man who owns second hand bangers are priced out of the market for driving. So now I cant get to my job. Now only wealthy people can drive. That's the issue. Not many people can afford new cars bro.

      about 3 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to nick b

      @nick b ...... context? Any at all?

      about 3 days ago
    • nick b
      nick b In reply to nick b

      @NotTheCIA I.think chain drive, drop oil every 8k. fully synth ebay , same specs. other stuff bonus. lube ftw.

      about 3 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to nick b

      @nick b 1.) Not as far as 500k.
      2.) How much do you think that would cost you in parts and servicing to get it to past 300k?

      How many oil replacements? Transmission oil replacements
      Oil filters
      Injectors
      Fuel pumps
      Timing belts
      Gaskets
      Etc

      about 3 days ago
    • nick b
      nick b In reply to nick b

      @NotTheCIA I.think a good diy maintenance man 300k from a diesel np bro

      about 3 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to nick b

      Alot of people cant afford to buy a BMW or Mercedes, but somehow people dont complain about that.

      As time goes on, those model 3's which might be 15-20-30 years old, will start to filter into the second hand market for cheaper.

      But they're still new to the market. You cant expect to see cheap second hand cars that have only been around for a few years. Thats just an unreasonable expectation.

      about 3 days ago
    • Don Fanto
      Don Fanto

      Co2 is not the enemy. It's fake science.

      about 3 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to Don Fanto

      Pray tell, why is that? If you're going to say that co2 makes plants grow i might face palm so hard ill could break my own nose

      about 3 days ago
    • keithsa41
      keithsa41

      why is no one talking about or manufacturing hydrogen to power cars? Hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicle only produces water and air, which are not harmful to the environment. Why not use this over lithium? Driving hydrogen fuel-cell powered cars would eliminate greenhouse gases and help reduce air pollution

      about 3 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to keithsa41

      Bottom line is, Bettery electric has far less energy wasteage.

      about 3 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to keithsa41

      Whilst yes, you can use renewables to make the hydrogen, and hydrogen trucks to transport the hydrogen. Alot of that energy will be wasted energy.

      And if we were to adopt hydrogen on a large scale, most of the energy input to make the fuel will be from out current grid. A mix of coal, gas, diesel and only a small amount of renewables.

      about 3 days ago
    • booger king
      booger king

      The problem with people comparing EV and ICE is that they compare it to gasoline energy's mileage for a car then assume a distance travelled if that energy is used on an EV. This is wrong. What people should compare is how much energy or electricity is used to produce the fuel, compute the distance the car can travel using that fuel, then calculate how much energy an EV needs to travel the same distance. Let's say a liter of petrol, with 9.7kWh of energy that can be used on an ICE to travel 15km, need 1.455kWh energy for production (assuming 15 percent efficiency or production cost). This means ICE cars only cost 1.455kWh energy to make a car travel 15km and not 9.7kWh. That means you just spent 1.455kWh to unlock this 9.7kWh energy. Now how much energy do you need to make an EV travel a distance of 15km? Assuming a 125Wh per km mileage for EV, you need 1.875kWh electricity from the grid. That's 1.455kWh for ICE vs 1.875kWh for EV.
      Now here's the thing, only 15 percent of that 1.455kWh is coming from the grid's electricity. The rest is from the oil's energy used to produce fuel. This means it's using the energy from the oil itself to produce fuel and only 15 percent is coming from the grid's electricity. So that makes it *0.218kWh for ICE vs 1.875kWh for EV in terms of electricity needed from the grid to make a car travel 15km distance*

      Now let's include the roundtrip efficiency,
      According to the US Department of Energy’s Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy, “EVs convert about 59–62 percent of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 17–21 percent of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels.”

      Using 21 percent for ICE and 62 percent for EV, the 35mpg or 15kmpl mileage for ICE already includes the efficiency losses since it is from fuel to wheels. With 1liter of petrol, it took 0.218kWh from the grid's electricity to make a car move 15km distance. For a 125Wh per km EV to travel 15km, it needs 1.875kWh ÷ 0.62 = 3.024kWh to make a car travel 15km.
      Conclusion, *Cars need 0.218kWh electricity from the grid or 1.455kWh total energy for ICE vs 3.024kWh for EV to make it move a distance of 15km. If people suddenly switched to EVs, the grid's load for vehicle use will increase by almost 14x compared to producing petrol*

      Edit, on a side note, the 125Wh per km mileage for EV already includes the efficiency losses from battery to wheels. So assuming 80 percent efficiency instead of 62 percent for EV, it needs 2.344kWh electricity from the grid

      So what does this mean? EVs need to double their current mileage if they want to win this ICE vs EV battle. The best thing to use are those powered scooters like Bird for transportation. And not manual biking because i think it will make you consume more energy unless you have lots of it in your body

      about 3 days ago
    • john ross martens
      john ross martens

      What are the emissions when they burst into flames haha

      about 4 days ago
    • NotTheCIA I.think
      NotTheCIA I.think In reply to john ross martens

      You mean when they burst into flames, according to the beuro of satistic, ANCAP safety board and the national fire and safety authority, 11x less often than combustion cars?

      Id assume around the same as any car bursting into flames. Why do you ask?

      about 4 days ago