Are minivans still relevant? I sure hope so, since we've spent a lot of time driving them over the past few weeks!

We had the unique opportunity to have two fully loaded minivans in our TestDrive Garage, allowing us to film a great Showdown on these two vehicles, but also get to really appreciate the minivan for what it is. We took the 2018 Kia Sedona SXL+ and 2018 Chrysler Pacifica Limited to see what each van has to offer families being tempted by larger crossover SUVs.

Both vehicles are about as fully loaded as it comes, though their MSRPs are off because of it. The Kia Sedona is equipped with it's top trim but doesn't offer any additional features or options on top. The Chrysler Pacifica on the other hand also comes configured with it's top trim, but also adds on another $7,000 worth of options, such as the rear Uconnect® theatre, 20-speaker Harman/Kardon audio system, Safetytec enhanced safety package, and 20" rims.

We take both vehicles on a comprehensive road test to talk about the differences for the interiors and exteriors, along with the centre row experience for adults and children, since most buyers likely have larger families that need the added space from a minivan. There's a lot of overlap between these two, but each has a unique set of features not found on the other.

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Comments

    • Mike Love
      Mike Love

      I recently purchase the Pacifica Hybrid and I love it. Out of all the vehicles I ever owned I get more attention from this hybrid then any other vehicle I have ever owned. A stop at Walgreens plug in station and all the crossover and green lovers are all around it. Any plug in station in Seattle WA. area becomes a hot spot of curious eyes. I'm In the military and asked my soldiers how they feel about the van, and they all had a favorite thing, manly the uconnect, and panoramic roof. Because they are younger they didn't have the hang ups we have about the box on wheels.

      about 3 days ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Mike Love

      We wish we had the chance to drive the PHEV, Chrysler did have it on their press fleet but we ended up getting this one as the Alfa Romeo we booked wasn't available. We see more Pacificas on the road each day, I feel it's going to continue to be a popular alternative to the crossover, especially if the rumors are true and an AWD option is coming.

      about 1 day ago
    • Aramiz2
      Aramiz2

      I would like to know from experts how these machines will look like [quality] after 5-6 years?

      about 18 days ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Aramiz2

      Consumer Reports put out their most & least reliable list of vehicles this week. Kia sits in 5th place with the Sedona being their most reliable vehicle, whereas Chrysler is in 24th out of 29 brands tested, with the Pacifica being the most problematic vehicle. The problem with this type of survey is the source of the data. Personally, I feel people are more likely to complain about a product than they are to give it praise, so testing like this makes it hard for someone like me to fully believe the numbers, as complaints will outrank praise. However most people will look at CR as a trusted professional source of data.

      about 17 days ago
    • De Bernard
      De Bernard

      The Pacifica is significantly better. My biggest issues are that Chrysler's have terrible history with mechanical issues and that shifter knob is stupid. If they can fix these two things, I would swipe one in a heartbeat

      about 1 month ago
    • De Bernard
      De Bernard In reply to De Bernard

      +Perpetual Radio Networks Don't get me wrong here. Chrysler is really onto something here by creating a minivan that crosses over into an SUV, rather than an SUV that crosses over into a miniman. However, they could completely corner the market by doing these couple things here:

      1. Make the vehicle AWD
      2. Improve dependability. There's little point in buying a vehicle that we can't be confident in driving 50k miles without having to repair something major.
      3. The monitors on the back of the seat need to be able to detatch, or make them not be interactable. Why? Because any child under maybe 10 can't interact with them without being unsafely seated.
      4. Get rid of that insanely ugly shifter knob. No one wants or likes that.


      Those things alone would give the entire market no reason to look elsewhere.

      about 1 month ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to De Bernard

      Long-term reliability is certainly something to consider with the Chrysler. That shifter too, not our favourite.

      about 1 month ago
    • bestman77
      bestman77

      The Kia is kinda depressing compared to the Pacifica.

      about 1 month ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to bestman77

      That Pacifica really stands out, it has a lot going for it.

      about 1 month ago
    • Mike B
      Mike B

      I totally go to car meet ups with my Pacifica!!...but mine's the hybrid version and most people don't seem to know it exists so it's a bit of a curiosity. Most common comment is "wow! I didn't know electric cars could be that big!"
      If you think the gas Pacifica is good, they Hybrid is better! It handles better and rides better, it's more quiet and you hardly every have to buy gas for it!

      about 2 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Mike B

      Very cool! It's good that there's events like that happening, it's a great way for enthusiasts to get out and meet new people, but also for others to learn more about the options out there. Unfortunately we're at a Nissan event this weekend in Tremblant, but let us know if there's ever anything else happening in the Ottawa area, we've got family up that way!

      about 2 months ago
    • Mike B
      Mike B In reply to Mike B

      Perpetual Radio Networks I shall look forward to seeing a review of the hybrid version at some point then!!
      If you’re near Ottawa there’s a Green Energy Doors Open event this Saturday (Sept 22) at Lansdowne Park. I’m brining my van to show but there will be a slew of other electric vehicles there as well. It’s public outreach for the electric vehicle club I’m with so it is kind of like an electric car meet-up and is open to the public. (There will be other cleantech there as well.)

      about 2 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Mike B

      That's outstanding! I really think the Pacifica deserves more attention, I still stand by it as a fantastic crossover alternative. You really can't beat that fuel economy though, even 4.5L/100km lifetime is really impressive for a vehicle of that size.

      about 2 months ago
    • Mike B
      Mike B In reply to Mike B

      We've had our 2017 for over a year now, our lifetime fuel economy is 4.5L/100km with just over 11,000km driven up to now (about 8,000 km of those in all-electric mode). Our best economy was 1.5L/100km where we went from 4 April 2018 to 7 July 2018 (four months!) without buying gas and did 3375 km's on that one tank of fuel - about 2/3 of which were electric only of course.

      about 2 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Mike B

      That’s what we like to hear! The Pacifica PHEV really is the one to get, we wish we had the chance to feature it, but hopefully we’ll get our hands on it to see what kind of fuel economy we can get with it.

      about 2 months ago
    • Lennox Lewis
      Lennox Lewis

      FCA poured a shit ton of money in the new Pacifica and it shows! Great review.

      about 3 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Lennox Lewis

      It definitely shows! We were a lot more impressed with this minivan than we thought we'd be!

      about 3 months ago
    • jasontman36
      jasontman36

      Just bought the Pacifica Touring plus L. 35k here in South Florida. I was looking for a SUV or Crossover but did not want to. Spend over 40k because I wanted leather. I got all the options I wanted and more room and I feel like I got more value for my buck with the Pacifica. I said 12 years ago I’d never buy another mini-van but here we go again! ...YO!

      about 3 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to jasontman36

      Can't go wrong with the Pacifica! We're seeing more of them on the road these days. We think it's a fantastic alternative to the crossover, especially if AWD isn't important for you. The PHEV model is also a great option!

      about 3 months ago
    • jasontman36
      jasontman36 In reply to jasontman36

      All my grown kids are bigger then me and are not moving out of the house anytime soon so why not get another Mini-van! Plus I have a place to sleep when I piss my wife off! It’s a win win!!! ...YO!

      about 3 months ago
    • Ronald Schwartz
      Ronald Schwartz

      I just purchased a Pacifica limited MSRP $49,020 for $40,136 excluding tax and license. Think of that when you compare models.

      about 3 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Ronald Schwartz

      That is a valid point for anyone going to buy one, the incentives and discounts on the Chrysler are quite good, in fact at first we thought these two were closer in price because of the way Chrysler almost hides the rebates on their Build & Price. Unfortunately we can't use discounted prices when comparing vehicles in anything we do, so the MSRPs are the only numbers we talk about.

      about 3 months ago
    • Acuravigor47
      Acuravigor47

      More minivan battles please

      about 3 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Acuravigor47

      We'll see what we can do! Honda might have an Odyssey on their press fleet, but there aren't many around. We did want to check out the Pacifica PHEV as it offers that plug-in range over the competition.

      about 3 months ago
    • kim p
      kim p

      My parents have a loaded Pacifica Limited. It has everything. I'm not a mini van person, and thought the parents were making a bad choice from all the minis I've seen (that I thought were really ugly) but I was quite wrong. Drives pretty well too. And it is just the two of them....No kids.

      However, the video states that they don't see many on the road, but where I am, there are a lot of them, although not many of the limiteds.

      about 3 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to kim p

      We’re starting to notice more of them, but in comparison to crossovers the numbers are low. The Pacifica is one of our favourite cars this year, really surprised us.

      about 3 months ago
    • ZJ W
      ZJ W

      Pacifica $76,000 ,Sedona 3.3 $47,000-56,000 in China

      about 4 months ago
    • Trevor Smith
      Trevor Smith In reply to ZJ W

      Perpetual Radio Networks  It's called tariffs on US made cars - GO TRUMP!

      about 1 month ago
    • juanmvaldivia
      juanmvaldivia In reply to ZJ W

      Got mu Chrysler Limited S addition for just under $50k. The video is great at showing the options on both cars, but at the limited level, the Pacifica just does more.

      As mentioned in the video, this car is great for a larger family. We are only four, but this will be great for out of town guests.

      The Kia is nice, but the seats are very deep bucket seats and might bother some people. My wife was one of those. Still it is a less pricey car. I got a price of $3k less than the Pacifica, but with out vacuum and so-n-go seats.

      about 3 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to ZJ W

      That's insanely expensive for the Pacifica!

      about 4 months ago
    • Fred_eazy21
      Fred_eazy21

      Whoa

      about 4 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Fred_eazy21

      We hope that's a good Whoa?

      about 4 months ago
    • Franklin Smith
      Franklin Smith

      Chrysler and Dodge vans tend to break down a lot even though they have some of the best features. Kia is finally fixing two if its biggest issues with the Sedona for 2019. An 8 speed transmission and upgraded infotainment unit with two touch screens in the back like Pacifica.

      about 4 months ago
    • Franklin Smith
      Franklin Smith In reply to Franklin Smith

      In US still think for using as people haulers mini vans offer the most bang for the buck. Have a 2012 Sedona now and looking forward to 2019

      about 4 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Franklin Smith

      Rumour has it the Pacifica might become a Kia product anyway, or at least under that Hyundai umbrella 🤐But while they may have had a tendency to have issues, there's no doubt that the Chrysler minivan is heavily relied on here in North America, both for families and businesses.

      about 4 months ago
    • INUMIMI28
      INUMIMI28

      I think the name Sedona suffers the most in past images, Rio, Sorento, Optima, they’ve all got over the past and moved on successfully, but Sedona....It still reminds me of the old car.

      about 4 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to INUMIMI28

      That's a good point actually. We were driving behind a Kia Spectra today, and we see quite a few of the Amanti models still lingering around the dealers out here. They've refreshed pretty much their entire lineup naming except for the minivan.

      about 4 months ago
    • eric cartman
      eric cartman

      i need that sedona...

      about 5 months ago
    • Mark Maxwell
      Mark Maxwell In reply to eric cartman

      My Auntie has a 2013 Red town & country Chrysler van!

      about 3 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to eric cartman

      It's a pretty nice ride, especially with those lounge seats in the back. Could make for a unique Uber experience.

      about 4 months ago
    • David Cho
      David Cho

      Wow, when you compare the trim level of the Pacifica to match the price of the fully loaded Sedona, you really see the dozen diminished key features which pretty much strips down the Pacifica to a much inferior vehicle. And don’t forget Kia comes with an unrivaled 10 year/10,000 mile warranty, while Chysler has had a history of engine problems.

      about 5 months ago
    • kim p
      kim p In reply to David Cho

      Charles Marshall Yes...A friend was given the Kia as a loaner. Neither of us were impressed. And unless the 2017 Pacifica Limited, that my parents have is bigger than the 2018, you don't feel "small" in it (if I understood correctly).

      I just went to Disney World with my parents and we took their Limited. We live 2 1/2 hrs south of Disney. Dad got a little over 25mpg on the way up and 24mpg on the way back home (more traffic). Not too bad! But this was still a decent review of the cars.

      about 3 months ago
    • Charles Marshall
      Charles Marshall In reply to David Cho

      Kia and Hyundai are same company and it is no secret that they have a major engine failure and recall going on now. My son's Sonata blew an engine at 86,000 mi. No engine problems with Chrysler vehinces during the past 10 years! I've driven both vans and the Pacifica has far superior driving dynamics.

      about 4 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to David Cho

      It's definitely true, the Pacifica is considerably more expensive overall, but Chrysler has been trying to position itself as a luxury-ish brand ever since it's marriage with Daimler. For the price, the Kia is exceptional, and we wouldn't bother with a similar priced Pacifica.

      about 5 months ago
    • Can you like, NOT
      Can you like, NOT

      These two models are popular in the U.S. so the minivan market has not died out just yet

      about 5 months ago
    • Can you like, NOT
      Can you like, NOT In reply to Can you like, NOT

      Same here, lol. I had a Kia Sorento before I switched to a Kia Sedona to fit the size of my family.

      about 5 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Can you like, NOT

      Glad to hear it! We see both of these on the roads up here too, but they're each in a sea of crossovers.

      about 5 months ago
    • DIAMLER
      DIAMLER

      Chrysler’s about to be history 😢

      about 5 months ago
    • DylBeen the Plotagonist and randomee 240
      DylBeen the Plotagonist and randomee 240 In reply to DIAMLER

      Perpetual Radio Networks FCA is actually planning 2 new Chrysler’s, they’re planning to resurrect the Aspen for a whole new full size crossover SUV in 2021 and they’re planning to make a new midsize crossover that shares a platform with the Jeep Cherokee and has the same 3 row seating arrangement as the Dodge Journey in 2020, and they’re planning to update the 300(maybe even add a Hellcat engine) and Pacifica(and add the S package to the hybrid)between 2019-2020, and on the Dodge side, they’re bringing back the Neon as a whole new vehicle based off of the Fiat Tipo as a replacement to the Dart, and the Grand Caravan will be discontinued after 2020 and there will be no Dodge variant of the Pacifica

      about 2 months ago
    • Oliver Lugo
      Oliver Lugo In reply to DIAMLER

      what are you talking about?

      about 4 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to DIAMLER

      Seems like it doesn't it. They're down to two vehicles, even though they're trying to make the Pacifica PHEV seem like a third separate vehicle. Something needs to be done with the brand or else it's going to disappear completely.

      about 5 months ago
    • Audiwan Kenobi
      Audiwan Kenobi

      This was/is a great production,your commentary was soo pleasing to listen to despite you being under the weather.....seriously, I loved the spontaneous feeling delivery!
      I typically keep my vehicle choices simple and just go with the most HP but I'm a Hyundai/Kia fan + I dont have Pacifica money anyways.

      about 5 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Audiwan Kenobi

      Definitely a bit better than when we went to record the audio for the Sedona on Sunday. I'm still not 100%, but I'm really hoping to be by this Sunday. We've got two cars to film that need to go back on Monday, so I need to be back to normal.

      about 5 months ago
    • Audiwan Kenobi
      Audiwan Kenobi In reply to Audiwan Kenobi

      Perpetual Radio Networks I'm looking in thru a foggy window but I think (as of this video) you sounded/looked real good.

      about 5 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Audiwan Kenobi

      Glad you liked it, thanks! I was really hoping my voice would be back to normal by now, but I'm starting to get worried about filming the current cars we have. We've got a few more Kias lined up, including the Stinger which we're picking up next week!

      about 5 months ago
    • Tony x
      Tony x

      Minivan maxifun 😂

      about 5 months ago
    • Perpetual Radio Networks
      Perpetual Radio Networks In reply to Tony x

      Almost! We were hoping to squeeze an Odyssey into the mix :P

      about 5 months ago