On the night/morning of October 10/11, 2012, Big Jim Video Productions once again visited Princeton Junction, NJ, as it was rumored that the Acela Express trains would be attemping another crack at 165 mph - and perhaps faster. With my photographer friend Mitch on the platform with me (thanks for the ride and company, Mitch) the tests started a bit later than was thought - around 11:45 pm. The first one flew by (was it close to the 165 mph of last time?), but then the second one inexplicably stopped at the station. Was it a problem, or a brake test? Who knows... The third runby wasn't exactly motoring along, and the fourth one stopped just past the station again. The fifth and sixth ones, however, absolutely flew by. That last run seemed much faster - could it have been faster than 165, even over 170 mph? That could have tied or eclipsed the mark set on December 20, 1967 by one of the UAC Turboliner trains, the fastest speed ever recorded on the Northeast Corridor. Was it actually faster? One day we may find out...in the meantime, enjoy this video and the new entrance video as well!

Comments

    • Physeter macrocephalus
      Physeter macrocephalus

      Last scene was 170-175 mph

      about 19 days ago
    • Wes8761
      Wes8761

      An Acela with light emitting diodes (LEDs)?!

      about 19 days ago
    • Nick Suchyta
      Nick Suchyta

      wow 170 + thats fast well only the acela i guess then

      about 21 day ago
    • Dead Inside
      Dead Inside

      These trains are capable of amazing things, but the infrastructure... isn't.

      about 2 months ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to Dead Inside

      Sadly, that's very true.

      about 2 months ago
    • Firecap111 !
      Firecap111 !

      My apologies. I have removed the comment. Nice work.

      about 3 months ago
    • Railstormers Rail & Aviation
      Railstormers Rail & Aviation

      0:14 tired eh?

      about 3 months ago
    • Railstormers Rail & Aviation
      Railstormers Rail & Aviation In reply to Railstormers Rail & Aviation

      The train.

      about 3 months ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to Railstormers Rail & Aviation

      Who, me or the crew? LOL

      about 3 months ago
    • Frank Pearson
      Frank Pearson

      "ROGER THAT ".

      about 4 months ago
    • Lyuda Ryabkova
      Lyuda Ryabkova

      the end though...

      about 6 months ago
    • AcelaRailfan2150
      AcelaRailfan2150

      YEEAAAAAAA BABY! If the Acela is trying to hit 180 I will fly up there to see it!

      about 10 months ago
    • AcelaRailfan2150
      AcelaRailfan2150 In reply to AcelaRailfan2150

      Same!

      about 4 months ago
    • MegaChallanger
      MegaChallanger In reply to AcelaRailfan2150

      @AcelaRailfan2150 I remember riding the acela and I could actually feel the acceleration stop when it hit 150. 150mph felt like a piece of cake on that train. I would think 30mph faster wouldnt be too much trouble.

      about 4 months ago
    • AcelaRailfan2150
      AcelaRailfan2150 In reply to AcelaRailfan2150

      Its not catenary its the train itself

      about 10 months ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to AcelaRailfan2150

      HA! That was just a test run though - they're not hitting those speeds until the catenary gets replaced/upgraded...

      about 10 months ago
    • Amtrak121
      Amtrak121

      Was there an extra car on the train

      about 10 months ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to Amtrak121

      Don't know, to be honest with you.

      about 10 months ago
    • DaNuke 26rblx
      DaNuke 26rblx

      Damn!

      about 1 year ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to DaNuke 26rblx

      That's what I said!!

      about 1 year ago
    • Long Island Mowers & More
      Long Island Mowers & More

      I believe the x2000 will blast the Acela out of the water.

      about 1 year ago
    • Bombardier Transportation
      Bombardier Transportation In reply to Long Island Mowers & More

      Avelia Liberty**

      about 8 months ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to Long Island Mowers & More

      Peter Lombardi Why, thank you very much!!

      about 1 year ago
    • Long Island Mowers & More
      Long Island Mowers & More In reply to Long Island Mowers & More

      Ive been watching your vids for years you do a good job at it jeep it up

      about 1 year ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to Long Island Mowers & More

      Peter Lombardi LOL!!

      about 1 year ago
    • acela2030
      acela2030

      Did a quick math calculation, the last train was only going a bit over 150mph, looked faster.

      about 1 year ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to acela2030

      It sure felt like 180 - or really really fast - as it sped by me. The rush of the air that the train displaces and the noise it makes - wow!

      about 1 year ago
    • its jxy
      its jxy In reply to acela2030

      acela2030 looked liked 180 to me

      about 1 year ago
    • BlueFireJack
      BlueFireJack

      I PUT IT AT 2X SPEED AND ITS SUPER FAST LOL

      about 1 year ago
    • AGB DoubleK
      AGB DoubleK In reply to BlueFireJack

      LMAO I WAS SCROLLINV WHILE AT 2X

      about 6 months ago
    • I Hack Toasters
      I Hack Toasters

      1:57 Should be the speed the Acela should run on. But R.I.P the weak overhead wires.

      about 1 year ago
    • James Shanks
      James Shanks

      The United Aircraft Turbo was geared for 165 mph. It was mechanically driven with up to 4 turbine engines in each control unit one of which was offline to provide HEP. It was slow to accelerate and hampered its entire life by a top speed of 100 mph. Each turbine was rated at 650 horsepower delivered to the drive unit and the drive unit was a one speed unit meaning there weren't any gears to shift. Once you hit 100 mph is where the train came alive and responded well above 100 to throttle commands but it used fuel voraciously and for its entire life it was a demonstration train, every night it deadheaded from Boston over 70 miles back to its maintenance base in Rhode Island. The Canadian National turbotrains were true trains having several cars between the power cars unlike the US version which had one car between the power cars. While cruising at 100 or higher you could actually feel and see the bottom of the train kicking out as designed to allow its higher speed in curves by lowering the center of gravity by the pendulum suspension system it had.

      The TGV/Acela is a much better alternative for high speed passenger service. And just as a bit of information about the Acela the trains that were running 165 mph on test runs weren't modified other than resetting the top speed the train was allowed to run at as they were delivered with a top speed gearing of 200 mph which is how the TGV was delivered to the SNCF. A top speed of 200 allows easy running at the scheduled speed of 186 mph so with the present Acela equipment if we had the track and wire to run on we could run at a cruising speed of 186 mph.

      about 1 year ago
    • Ethan Lamoureux
      Ethan Lamoureux In reply to James Shanks

      True. If only we had the track to run it on!

      about 1 year ago
    • its jxy
      its jxy In reply to James Shanks

      Ethan Lamoureux well he is right about Acela going 186 if we put Acela on France track it would reach 186

      about 1 year ago
    • Ethan Lamoureux
      Ethan Lamoureux In reply to James Shanks

      James Shanks
      Your statement makes no sense. Top speed of 100 mph means it couldn't go above 100, then you say it worked best at speeds above 100...??

      about 1 year ago
    • BenH03
      BenH03

      dude the acela is the only thing capable of that speed

      about 2 years ago
    • Lennox Alexander Francis Jr
      Lennox Alexander Francis Jr

      Acela needs to hit 200+ MPHs.

      about 2 years ago
    • BadmingtonSunset
      BadmingtonSunset In reply to Lennox Alexander Francis Jr

      Acela need the avelia liberty upgrade

      about 7 months ago
    • its jxy
      its jxy In reply to Lennox Alexander Francis Jr

      Zack Boone the top speed was 180-187

      about 1 year ago
    • Zack Boone
      Zack Boone In reply to Lennox Alexander Francis Jr

      Its not built for that. The Acela was designed with 150mph service speed in mind, 175mph may be the ceiling of its performance.

      about 2 years ago
    • David Wu
      David Wu

      Wonderful video, nice quality!

      about 2 years ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to David Wu

      +David Wu Thank you!

      about 2 years ago
    • G R E E N 凹
      G R E E N 凹

      Amtrak is trying to work on increase speed on the Acela to reduce some time

      about 2 years ago
    • Nicholas Matthews
      Nicholas Matthews

      0:14 They are trying to see how 15 mph will work on the North East Corridor

      about 2 years ago
    • Astro Goal Horns
      Astro Goal Horns In reply to Nicholas Matthews

      Lol! I think the driver was playing train sim in the cab and forget to reset the alerter!

      about 6 months ago
    • McDonnell Douglas MD-11
      McDonnell Douglas MD-11 In reply to Nicholas Matthews

      How is it now that I realized that it's a joke.

      about 1 year ago
    • McDonnell Douglas MD-11
      McDonnell Douglas MD-11 In reply to Nicholas Matthews

      ?????

      about 1 year ago
    • Nicholas Matthews
      Nicholas Matthews In reply to Nicholas Matthews

      Sorry, I ment five

      about 2 years ago
    • JoeyLovesTrains
      JoeyLovesTrains

      It's definitely testing, it has 10003, the Acela's test car, and that might've been high speed testing along the route. It had 7 cars not 6, like the normal Acela train sets have.

      about 3 years ago
    • I use reverse card
      I use reverse card

      True

      about 3 years ago
    • I use reverse card
      I use reverse card

      Tire

      about 3 years ago
    • ploopy523
      ploopy523

      I thought it was a Silverliner II that held the previous record from 1965

      about 4 years ago
    • GintaPPE1000
      GintaPPE1000

      Sorry, but Acela traction motors are geared for a top speed of 165.  The motors are limited from exceeding that speed because that is their designed limit.  Acelas have been cleared for 150 between New Brunswick and Trenton since they started operations, so it's not much of an improvement.
      The biggest drag to this train is the section on MNRR north of NYC where the tilting system is disabled (forcing them to slow down even more for curves) and they're allowed only 90 even though the track can theoretically support 135 or above.

      about 4 years ago
    • Captain Justice
      Captain Justice In reply to GintaPPE1000

      +Eric Williams Yeah he's right

      about 3 years ago
    • Eric Williams
      Eric Williams In reply to GintaPPE1000

      +GintaPPE1000 Actually, all of your information is incorrect. Acela trainsets can most certainly exceed 165 MPH. During the tests last year on the Shore Line (east of New Haven) they reached speeds of over 170. Secondly, Acela's are not now (nor have they ever been) allowed to exceed 135 ANYWHERE between NYC and Washington during normal use. The only place Acela's regularly go 150 is certain sections in MA and RI. Lastly, tilting is not disabled on MNRR. It was at one point due to potential clearance issues but that rule went away years ago. Acela trains have their tilting enabled from Boston to Washington all the time. That being said with or without tilting the Acela speeds on MNRR are identical to all passenger train speeds because of track and catenary issues. It has nothing to do with tilting. The fastest speed for any passenger train on MNRR's New Haven line is 80MPH. None of their track on the line is good for any higher speeds. Not sure where you got the information that MNRR tracks are theoretically good for 135? The majority of their track is wood ties with a max speed of 70mph. It will be a decade at least before the catenary system, signal system and bridges are upgraded to get speeds anywhere near even 100mph.

      about 3 years ago
    • GintaPPE1000
      GintaPPE1000 In reply to GintaPPE1000

      @Rail Roader Top speed usually refers to maximum *sustained* speed over level terrain.  Almost all electric locomotives have a "boost" mode that can temporarily increase output, which is what gives them a higher maximum speed than what they were designed for, however their official maximum speed (using the definition above) is 165.

      about 4 years ago
    • radio40
      radio40

      good brakes yes that's a good thing

      about 4 years ago
    • Lachie Tod
      Lachie Tod

      Lot of arcing - too much pan bounce!???

      about 4 years ago
    • Lachie Tod
      Lachie Tod In reply to Lachie Tod

      Even so, it shouldn't bounce so much

      about 2 years ago
    • AmtrakFanNEC927
      AmtrakFanNEC927 In reply to Lachie Tod

      Fixed tension at this location.

      about 2 years ago
    • GintaPPE1000
      GintaPPE1000 In reply to Lachie Tod

      Theoretically the wires in this section of the NEC are constant-tension (it's too hard to guarantee a constant power supply without it above certain speeds; American regulation states above 135, I believe).  In practice, that's difficult to maintain even for countries like France with developed HSR infrastructure.  The arcing results from the train running across either rough spots in the track or sags in the wire and losing contact or pushing against the wire too hard.

      about 4 years ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to Lachie Tod

      Who knows.

      about 4 years ago
    • F-14A Tomcat Tobar
      F-14A Tomcat Tobar

      P.s the last train was faster than my Doge ChallegerR/T which goes 172 mph

      about 4 years ago
    • F-14A Tomcat Tobar
      F-14A Tomcat Tobar

      Either the driver was to lazy, or that the train is running late.

      about 4 years ago
    • F-14A Tomcat Tobar
      F-14A Tomcat Tobar In reply to F-14A Tomcat Tobar

      ....... oh

      about 4 years ago
    • Big Jim Video Productions
      Big Jim Video Productions In reply to F-14A Tomcat Tobar

      LOL no - it was a test train.  So it's not running late, nor does it have a lazy engineer.  ;)

      about 4 years ago